The Incoherent Podcast
Join Zach, Hoover and Jason every Thursday on The Incoherent podcast as they dive into the hottest sports topics and games! Whether it's the latest scores, thrilling highlights, or heated debates, these two mates bring their unique perspectives and spontaneous humour to the mix. get ready for an entertaining and engaging ride, perfect for sports fans and gamers alike. tune in for a rollercoaster of incoherent yet captivating conversations about all things sport and gaming.
The Incoherent Podcast
Episode 3 : hoovers debut.
Jason is joined by Hoover for a fast-and-loose run through a massive week in sport. We dive into the NRL finals with bold calls and bracket chaos, check in on the Rugby Union storylines that matter, and break down the latest from the NFL. Then it’s all eyes on the AFL Grand Final—matchups, mind games, and who actually lifts the cup.
To round it out, we tap the controller for a little gaming chat: sailing the seas in Black Flag and some spicy takes on Battlefield 6 chatter.
Highlights:
- NRL finals: upsets, standouts, and who’s peaking at the right time
- Rugby Union: form checks and fixtures to watch
- NFL: early-season overreactions and real concerns
- AFL Grand Final: key battles, tactical swings, and our winner
- Gaming corner: Black Flag love letter, Battlefield 6 talk
It’s punchy, a bit chaotic, and very Incoherent—just the way you like it.
Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Welcome to episode three of the Incoherent Podcast. And today I am not with Zach, I'm with Hoover. So
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:going?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Zach's way of working for a couple of weeks. he had no reception. We were gonna try and do it through his phone and I figured out stressing out how to do it and figured out how to do it and he can't do it anyway, so we've got, whoever coming in to help us out. Excited.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yes. Very excited here, here to help out.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:gonna make it a lot worse or better.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:It was only, it was only because, when I put that post up to say that we're even doing it, you rang us the next morning, the first thing, see when episode out, no, no. Yeah, it was still editing it, but nah, it should be all good. So, Hoover's one of our mates that we've known each other for ages. Zach was the best me enemy wedding and tried to convince me to not marry me wife. And Hoover was the one driving me wife in convincing me wife not to marry me. So yeah, good mates.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I, I told her she wouldn't, she wouldn't go through with it, but
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Well, she said she was happy before, I think, I think that's what she said. I made some pretty good dinner. whoever's a warrior supporter, so he is probably done better than me and Zach.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. They had a tough game. They were always, always against it. There. They're,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about it later, but the Warriors are in the New South Wales Cup Grand Final as well, so Jet Cleary must be kicking along over there. So
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yep.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I'm at work all weekend, so I don't get to watch these things, but I'm off next week, which is the main bit that matters, I suppose. yeah, even last weekend I didn't get to watch everything, but I got to watch some of it. What did you get up to? Through the week?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, not a lot, mate. Just been working.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Now that I'm back home again, be able to spend some time with the family. So, yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. EAPs better now that you're not away all the time.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:it's not working away all the time, but yeah. No, it's a lot better. So
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, yeah. Should be good. they'll go into the sports wrap. We started off with the sports wrap. We had the, NRL finals, which honestly sharks have surprised me. A little bit and now they've worried me. But like I said a couple of weeks ago, this final series is just too close. You can't really pick, and I'm not, I'm not game enough to pick any team this weekend., Any one of them could win this weekend. The Grand Final,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's exactly right. The, the Sharks, they've floated under the radar for the last fair few weeks where people have rode'em off said, nah, they're not gonna do it. Hines isn't clicking and,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:there's been playing pretty well. They've won the last nine of the last 10 games.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's exactly right. And they're in form at the moment. They've all jelled together. They're just doing what they gotta do. They're just working the grind.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:They're hooking in, they're playing pretty well. The one thing I have noticed over both games is just the high tempo. They're like grand final games. Every single one of them, even in that Panthers game, they just come out swinging and, and credit to the bulldogs and that it's not that they played that bad, they just got outplayed, like the,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:right.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:they play any other team. It's a lot closer.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:The Panthers, they just went into game mode and exactly what they'd done. They could have done it with their eyes closed. They've been there, done that, done it, all that,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:few years of it.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, they're gonna, they're gonna be very hard to stop and if the Broncos didn't have a week off and play the best game that I've seen them play the week before, I'd, I'd probably pick the Panthers, but I can't, for that reason, the Broncos have just had a week off and they beat Canberra down in Canberra the week before pretty convincingly. So only thing, the only thing with that is though they've got Reynolds comes back and then Hunt's moving back to five eight and you've got Ezra Miam on the bench because, Walters has done his ACL and the Miam on the bench thing kind of confused me, to be honest. I, I thought they would've moved hunt the hooker and started with Ezra. Put Honey in the hooker for a bit and then take him off.'cause at the end of the game you can throw him into lock where Carrigan's missing from and I think it just would've made a bit more sense to me. But, they've got twice and smoothie going into lock and I don't know, they might move it around a little bit. Just seems a bit of a strange selection for me, but yeah, sure. Mag's all over it.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think the Broncos are gonna mis carrigan as well.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:He is a front that controls the game.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. He, he does, he unbelievable player really. They'll have him back on the grand final at least, on their side of things. So, I think they're gonna be two unreal games and unfortunately on Sunday I'll be at work because they move that game to a daytime game, but I'll be able to watch Friday's game, which is good. And even the Sharks going down to Melbourne. Melbourne if have a week off, they've got Jerome Hughes coming back, but they're playing so well. I, I honestly dunno what's gonna happen. It could be anything really.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. The thing is Melbourne, they've got, they've got those smart players there what they gotta do.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Like
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:have got some big players on the team, but when you compare'em against, say, Melbourne, Brisbane, and Panthers, they've, they're halves just are above the rest.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. Well, Hines has been controlling the game really well. I've noticed when I've watched it and taken on the line a little bit. But he's been directing everything around, which has really helped him. And the Fords are just going nuts and yeah, Ronaldo's probably killing it really.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:He can do some stupid stuff, but at the end of the day, he in there, does his job when it needs to be done.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I'm just looking forward to it to be honest. new South Wales Cup Grand Finals and the Queensland Cup Grand Finals are both getting played this week.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:See in the, in the New South Wales Cup, you got the dragons
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Dragons and Warriors.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, first versus second.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the thing is, the dragons beat the wars go straight into the grand final,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:but yeah. be, it'll be interesting. It'll be a very interesting game. The wa the wars have been pretty good. I think they've won 22 outta 26 for the season.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah., The Warriors have been going well in the New South Wales cart, which is usually a pretty good indication of, how strong your depth he's at your club and your juniors and stuff Pen had that a couple of years ago where they won everything. so it's always good to have really good juniors. I, I always pay attention to the Knight, juniors and all that. And the other, they go and sometimes they're up and down, but majority of the time they're pretty good. And it doesn't, it never translates to first grade.'cause we never hold on to those players. some of'em, and they end up moving on and it's a little bit disappointing, but it, it's good if they, they've sorted out their, their pathways and stuff like that. It's, I'm not sure how their SG ball went this year, or what is it? Flag, which is a 20 flag. Yeah. Flag. So, but it the same like the storm. The storm have all, they've cut ties with, sunshine Coast and all their feeder clubs in Queensland. And that, they've just sold off their, they had stakes in the lightning, sunshine Coast. Lightning, like the netball team, they just sold them because they want to try and focus on. Pathways in Victoria, which is is pretty good thing for rugby league as a whole of you starting to develop down there on their own and bringing players through. I know some people say that, oh, they don't have their own players, and they've had a few come through, but not that many. But I, I think it's a good thing that they're trying to do that, and I'm guessing that they'll, they'll probably have a new South Wales Cup team next year. Probably the easier of the two, though. They've been playing in Queensland Cup, so.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, that's right. Instead of, instead of like all the teams just feeding from Sydney or Brisbane
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:to get all their players. Yeah. They're, they're all starting to expand. We've, with the Bears coming in next season too. We've perf and all that.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:start getting more players come through the ranks. Like I know they'll probably still have come from up, above them and that,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. No, it's.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:good. It's good to open it up.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's like what I've said to Zach before, when when you have your team, you have your top 30 that are, they've got the contracts as full-time and they're training full-time, and then anyone below that, they're doing part-time, so they're working or at school or whatever they're doing below that. They don't train five days a week or six days a week or whatever they're doing and get the proper treatments and coaching and stuff like that. So adding that other team that's 30 more players that have a contract that wouldn't have had a contract like over the whole league. It's not just the players that go to the Bears. The whole lot of them are getting coaching and stuff, and you have players that get overlooked. half of the storm team are players that were overlooked at other clubs like
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Cameron Smith and Cooper Cronk and Billy Slater. They're all overlooked by the Broncos, ended up in Melbourne. And look how that worked out. There's, there's players there, there's players that are overlooked that could be anything. you don't know when they're young until they're older, really how good they're gonna be. And you gotta persist with'em. It's the only, the only thing is that there's not many halves around, particularly halfbacks.'cause I, I believe that fullbacks and five eights can be interchangeable to a certain degree, but as for a halfback that's gonna control a team, they're in, they're in short supply. So, the, the more people that you get, when you expand the competition, you're expanding your, your growth to develop those players as well. And it might just take some time. So I think. The Dolphins might be a little bit of a, they were already set up pretty well when they got the license. I'm not sure how that's gonna translate with the beers, though. I think the beers have, they've got their New South Wales Cup team, but I think they've, I think they've made a feeder club with one of the, the Burley Bears or East Tigers or something as well, so they'll be
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:not too sure off about that one, but yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Mm,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:it'll be interesting to see. See what happens. It'll be a new, new range of players
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:that will get it, get an opportunity to come in.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, exactly. It does, it just gives, it gives people more opportunity. That's all it is. You get that opportunity to train full time and then you can, see what a player's actually made of or not. You've got players that go to Super League and stuff all the time, which, we're stealing players from going to Super League. Like players like Sexton shouldn't be under the Super League.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Nah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:He's good enough to stay in the NRL and to hit it out. And then you get those players like Hastings and that, that go over there and spend their best years over there and then come back and, he, he was all right for the knights to start with, but he just got a little bit slow in the end there and I think that's why they wanted to move him on. And I think he was causing dramas anyway.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, that's right. Look at, look at Bevin French. Went
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:League and he's a superstar over there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. At the, at the same, same time he, he, was looking at signing with the ninths on a big contract a couple of years ago and then he turned them down to stay over there'cause he didn't really want to come back. So, the pressure over here probably affects'em as well.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's right.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Compared to over there, probably a bit more accepting of him or not as critical or, it comes down to personalities as well. But you're right,, he is killing it over there. I'm pretty sure he'll be probably player of the year over there. He's unreal. So, yeah, mind you whole kr topped the ladder over there this year, which is a pretty good achievement for them. So, yeah, Willie Peters over there as the coach and I think he's coming into the Australian system. And then I was reading the other day that apparently, me and Leah are looking at in the next couple of years that he's gonna be the one replacing Sea Bolt. So not a hundred percent sure. I just read that, the other day. So
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Righto. Interesting. Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, there's plenty of coaches. That's where I think Adam O'Brien's ended up too as an assistant coach to Seabold. So,'cause Seabold was an assistant to Adam O'Brien there for 12 months at one stage, I think rugby league's in a pretty good place like this whole season's been pretty good from start to finish, to be honest. There's been pretty close competition, and this final is a series has really shown that it's shown how close everything is. There's not just two or three teams that are just gonna run away with it anymore, so,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Exactly right. There was a lot, a lot of injuries this season too, which did bring a lot of the teams closer together as well.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:But a lot of, a lot of teams missed some major players and had a lot of outage players, which kept it
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:to a, like an average skill
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Mm-hmm.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:instead of having, yeah. All your, all your main players just coming in, just rip tear and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's where, that's where your development comes into it. Like if you, if you can develop well enough, you can, you have players that are waiting, they can come in and do a job until that player comes back. Like, you're not expecting'em to be that player. But that's, that's part of developing your juniors and stuff, I suppose, like, yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Hundred.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. And you got anything else on the footy?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:only the Queensland
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh yeah. Queensland Cup. I completely forgot about Queensland. That's the, burly Bears and the North Devils. Yeah. So. I think I don't watch much as Queensland Cup, but, or New South Wales Cup really. I just seen that the Warriors were in it the other day and wanted to sort of mention it, but it, it's not a bad competition. Like I remember when I lived up in Brisbane and that it was on TV and stuff a lot more than it is down here, but I don't think they, I think we get more Queensland Cup games on Fox League than we do New South Wales Cup games, don't we?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:For some reason.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:They do show a fair bit of it
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:because it, it is starting to get a lot more interesting.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Not saying that it wasn't interesting, but a lot of the that will come to the first grade
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:they go back into the comp and it just, shows the players down in that league what to expect when they are wanting to come into the
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:NRL
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I know SA very big advocate of a, national reserve grade, but if you do that, it's gonna kill these two competitions off. So I don't know how they're gonna go about that if they did do that. because they'll, they'll just end up being a lesser competition, and all the good players from those competitions will go into the reserve grade competition. Like I under, I understand the idea behind it. It would be kind of sad to see the Queensland Cup and the New South Wales Cup, fall because of that.'cause the, they, they're pretty big competitions to their communities and stuff, yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:and it, and it's, it's always a good show too, when. You have the New South Wales Grand Final winner versus the Queensland
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:as
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:It's it. It's like another New South Wales versus Queensland state of origin.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, yeah. And that, that's what I was saying, last week about frigging NRL or all the NRL best like the World Club challenge, but have it like two weeks after the grand final and run'em as two conferences and have it as a super final because it just adds that little bit more interest and a bit more depth, But you can promote from both sides. But I think that only works if the NRL does buy a stake in the Super League and starts to expand it. And I don't think, I quite said last week I'd probably turn the Super League into a European Super League rather than a English Super league.'cause I just don't think the clubs don't last long enough, in the competition. Like they fall away, like Southford this year. I remember when, we were younger, Bradford would win and everything, and then there. Only just looking at getting back into the Super League next year. So they seemed to fall away. Even Leeds were massive and not so much massive now. And I don't know, I dunno what, I don't know how to fix English Super League to be honest. I've never been been to England to see it. But, you know, the soccer would dominate things over there, I would imagine.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:that's the thing. That's it. That's their main sport over there. Soccer,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Oh, they get, they get into their Six Nation rugby. I know that. I've noticed that lately. That's another whole thing. But while we're on rugby, the Wallabies play the Bull Blacks, what do you reckon They're gonna beat them.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Or be an interesting game. I think it's out Eden Park, isn't it?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. And that's the point I made. The Wallabies haven't beat the All Blacks at Eden Park since 1986? That was the last time that the Wallabies beat the, beat the All Blacks at Eden Park. And we haven't won the Redlow Cup since like 2002 or something.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:It'll be in a very interesting game, I reckon, because, I think the All Blacks, they've just, they've just come off playing, South Africa
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, they just got toweled up. Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the last couple of games, which, which is a pretty good tester.'cause
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Africa ain't an easy team
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think South Africa are the top team now. I think the All Blacks have fell off for a little bit to what they were. you know, I, I've always remembered'em as being the team to beat, but
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:are even third at the moment,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:in the,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the third, the third top team.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Australia's on top. Oh, it's only because of bonus point. Really? Yeah. I don't know. I find the whole rugby championship thing a bit strange. I know it's not a World Cup, but you got four teams. Yeah. Australia's on top, but they've all won two each. Oh, no. Yeah. One, two each. All, all four of them. It's mostly points difference. It's the difference. So Australia's got the bonus point there, but yeah. Mark, Nick, watch.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:He is going back to rugby
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I've seen before.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:afternoon.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, A bit, a bit of a,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:roosters till next year
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:then, not negotiating. He is wanting to go home.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Well he wants to go back to rugby. It's, it's all the draw of the Home World Cup in 2027. So, which you can sort of understand, you know, I think there's a Rugby League World Cup next year, the Rugby Union, world Cup's obviously a lot bigger scale. I, I think Rugby League's coming along with it, just depends on what they do with their eligibility in the future, I suppose. But I, I'm pretty certain we're gonna find out that they're gonna scrap the eligibility thing or the tier system and over the off season. So I know they have, with the girls, they've got no tier system with the girls. the girls can just pick a country so they can play for New Zealand and England and play origin. So. I think, I think it's a better way to go,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:to be honest. What are, what are your thoughts on that?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:well, yeah. I, I, it doesn't, it doesn't really bother me that much. all, all you're doing is keeping the best players playing at the time.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:like even, even with the NRL going back to having the Broncos picking up, maybe Jesse Southwell
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:to them next year. they're a strong team as it is.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. And that's, that's a system they've gotta try and work out in the NRLW, to be honest. Like I know they can sign two full-time players per team. But, it's gonna be part of it growing and they'll probably look at it. If it starts to get too dominant, they'll change it. That's what rugby league does. As soon as the team gets dominant, they change the rules so that they try to bring'em back to the field. And that's why there is so many rule changes. So
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:you think they'll ever go to the same as the A FL in the draft?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:do a draft or you wanna talk about draft? I don't think they will.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think that, Terry Hill ruined that whole thing with his, court thing in the nineties when they did do a draft. But like I said, the only way that it's gonna work is if the NRL takes over the pathways and there's no pathways with the clubs. That's the only way that it could work.'cause that's how it works in the NFL is that they've got the colleges and they pick from the best of the colleges and they've, you know, they've had it. Implemented for ages, and that's what the whole point of it was. It was to make the competition closer. And to be perfectly honest, the probably the reason why I'm so sold on a draft and the way it works is I read a book called The League, well not read it, listened to the audible book at, work, just driving around in the truck. And it basically, it's the story of how the NFL started from the very beginning and what they found and why they implemented it.'cause NF well, American Football wasn't really popular between adults and it was very popular with college and it still is today that it's popular in college and it's more popular in its most popular sport in America. But that these are just things that they implemented to make there. Product more watchable because it was closer and stuff like that. It's a really good book and it really explains a lot of things. And if you translated that to the way that rugby league is and what you, what they wanna achieve, it kind of works in a way. But, the only way that it's gonna work is if you take, take all the pathway development from the clubs and then they can't sit there and say, oh, we, we developed this player.'cause that's what it comes down to, that if another club picks up their best player after they've spent years developing'em, they're not gonna, they're not gonna put the effort in to do it anyway. So, yeah. I dunno. Maybe one day we'll have rugby league schools,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Maybe,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:a better place. Uh, do you like it or not?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:well, God, it, there's, there's two ways of looking at it, even the playing field out between the clubs,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:said,, it's gonna be hard for him to make it fair.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's the only problem with it.. The knights get the first pick and then the titans get the second pick but it also does open up for teams that are towards the bottom that want to get that better player if a player comes up because they're gonna pay more attention to the juniors that are coming through and they see a really good player that they really want, they tank the season. And I don't think, NRL needs that they need the close competition to try and to run win.'cause that's what happens in the NFL. They get certain point in the season and go, well, we need a quarterback and this one's coming through, we want the first pick. So they start tanking
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:it, and it does happen.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:a, a lot of players have some of clubs now, but asking to leave early for compassionate because they wanna go back home.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:So you can do the draft all you want, but the, you gotta have the players wanting to play there as well.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. I, I just think it'll work really well in making a better competition, that's all. I don't actually think that it'll ever work the way they want it to. you gotta look at Walsh, he was at the Warriors, he was doing well, they gave him his opportunity and just up and fucked off back to the Broncos. It wasn't, and that, that was all it was.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:he, he was, he was at the Broncos, but
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:always wanted to play fullback and was never given the opportunity
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:and then went over to the Warriors and they just seen him as a young, up and coming star. So they pushed one of their better at a position to let him have that spot and have a look at him near.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. Well he was on the trajectory for that. He just wanted to be at the Broncos. And that's just what's gonna happen. the Broncos, the roosters, they've got draw power'cause they're that glamor club, they're the clubs they wanna play for'cause they, they win premier ships. So, Warrior's been there since 95. They've made two grand finals.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Two grand finals and being beaten. Pretty embarrassing in both of'em.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Well, it, it just. They're not, they're, they're not there consistently. And it, it's kind of weird to me because, the Warriors have a whole country to draw from. That's probably where the Warriors have the advantage. they, they've got players like Fisher Harris and all that that want to go back and play in New Zealand and play for the club and help'em out. It's a bit of a draw card for those players and they probably just need to dig into that., Do you reckon the 20th team should be another New Zealand team?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, it, I re, I reckon if, if it is another New Zealand team, it will probably shorten up both of the teams over there really? Because. A lot, a lot of players are going back to New Zealand to play in New Zealand where their, all their family is
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Adding another team over there I think would be too congested.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:like we've Sydney. Yeah. You've got the, you've got all the teams there. You've got the seven or eight teams in there. But Sydney's a a lot bigger place than what New Zealand is with people wise and, Pathways where I think, I think New Zealand's more rugby
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:and, and the, and the high schools and that over there.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Well for as long as the black, all Blacks are playing terribly. They might turn their eye. The Warriors get pretty good support over there, to be honest.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:that, well, that's the thing. The, the other weekend when it was Warriors versus Panthers, it was the exact same night the Wallabies playing
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Well that's a,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the Warriors got a sold out
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Why are you a warrior supporter anyhow?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I dunno. I've just, yeah,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:You just never knew. You just like, no, I like that team.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Well before the Warriors, it was the Raiders.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, really?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:only the Raiders because they were green, into the grass. I always, that was my saying when I was younger. And then, yeah, when the Warriors came in, I, I just, yeah, I went for the Warriors.'cause like, you, you look at the Warriors back then, they, they went out to hurt players, run over players. And it was mostly like Harlem Globetrotters style
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:run with the ball in one hand and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:have three plays hanging off you and still chucking it over the top.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. There's still kinda a like that in. Yeah, they'll do the hard stuff and try to look fancy and, but it's worked out well for'em this year. They've been a bit more organized, I suppose.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:it's come back to good coaching and, you know, good pathways and setting that club up properly, I suppose. So there's no reason why they shouldn't have good pathways and everything. So I think it just sucked'cause they. They, had Redcliffe set up as their feeder club there for a bit until the Dolphins come in and that got taken away from'em. So that would've been good for'em, I think, to be completely honest. eh,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:it up a little bit more for him.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Uh, it's just trying to get players that wanna play for your club, you know what I mean? Like someone like Sean Johnson should never been let go from the club for what, two years that he wasn't there.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:loves that club
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:He,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:if you listen to his
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. He never, he never wanted to go. I think it was just the club wanted to bring through other players
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:was the easiest option
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:to, to
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:That, yeah. They just wanted to try something different to see if it made a change. So, you know, and he loves the Warriors. Have you ever listen to his podcast?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:no, I haven't listened to, I've seen clips of it,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, he absolutely loves it. I absolutely loves it. And I will say I love watching him commentate on Fox Sports. He is,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:a different flare.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. He, he knows his shit. Like in a country that does like support rugby union, like you said, a lot of them are drawn towards that rugby union. Once they get good, he's pure rugby league. And he even said on it that he played rugby union a couple of times. He just didn't like it. Like, he's like, no, this is shit. And he went back. So yeah,, he's very, very good on the commentary side of things. So I, I would quite enjoy that. I know that I only come across his podcast'cause I was looking for similar sort of podcasts for this so that I could, research a little bit on what to do on that. And yeah, that's how I come across is, and now I listen to it. So it's pretty good actually.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Might have to look at it.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. I can't remember what it's called, but I'm sure you can Google it and find it. I wasn't really prepared for that, so, but I don't know, I back to the Wallabies, I do hope they do win this week. I don't hate Rugby Union, but I get why people are put off by it because it's, it, it can become boring and hard to watch compared to what we watch with Rugby League. And I still wanna see a strong rugby like Wallabies team there,, coming up with a World Cup in the couple of years and that'll probably take more interest in it'cause it'll be easier to watch and stuff. But, I would love to see him ever run it, winning it.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,, I think I've probably sat down and watched maybe one or two full games.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Not, not completely understanding what's going on, but I've sat there and actually watched them. you do find yourself every now and then questioning yourself, not being a union supporter or something like that, going, oh, what's going on here at the
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. Well, it, it's a lot more technical and it's a lot more forward based and that, that's the thing. they don't have to play the balls and stuff like that where, rugby league's all about ruck speed and playing off the back of it, and they're having those crafty players out the back where it's not really so much the speed of the ruck or anything. It's just getting your, your territory where you want to be and stuff. That's why they kick a lot and try to get stuck down in the other end. And, it's just, it is just played a lot differently where, rugby league now is pretty much from trial line to trial line every set. It, it's been designed that way. It's very hard to keep a team in their half. It's pretty much, you can have just about, have an attack and kick at the end of every set. If you really wanted to, unless you get a really good defensive team. But I, I played, when I was in the Army, I played three games of rugby union and I didn't like it either because I was in the outside backs and I was bored. And that was why,'cause it's all fed through the Fords and you don't see much ball. And then when the other team gets, it's the same thing. It's fed through all the Fords and you don't get many tackles because they don't really come anywhere near. So I think I made one run, two tackles and I got a penalty for a shoulder charge that it wasn't a shoulder charge. But anyway, it was just'cause I.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the only, the only time that the backs do the ball is when it's kicked
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:when it's open, like you can, you can swing it out that way.'cause if you, you need all your players there to control the rock, to keep the ball. If you swing it out to your winger like they do in rugby league, you've, you're a chance of losing the ball. That's why they keep it in the middle. It's more to protect the ball, to keep the ball.'cause obviously they've got their phases. They don't have play the balls, so you're trying to hold the ball as long as what you can and, yeah. Yeah. That, that, that's an example of why, why rugby league changed. that's why they changed rules all the time and people get the shits with it. There was a time when the dragons won 11 in a row. Do you know why they won 11 in a row?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Because they had the best of the best and there was, there was no, count, wasn't it?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. There was no tackle count.. It was unlimited possession. So. Basically what had happened was the dragons had the best players and all they did was go, oh, we'll, we'll just hold the ball. So they'd hold the ball for entire games, and if the other team doesn't have the ball, they can't score. They can't win.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:And that's why they change that rule. And that's why when they do change rules, I let it play out and see how it's gonna go instead of winging about it all the time. Like, I like the six again now. But it picks up the pace. It makes it more exciting from a pan's point of view, you pain the A. As a player, it'd be freaking horrible.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, it's, it's, it's hard enough for'em to defend and set after set on their own lines,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:having 7, 8, 9 tackles
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:continuously coming at you.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:it, it, it does make it a lot more interesting, like, as you see now all your forwards and that are a lot fitter, a lot quicker than
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Little more mobile.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:back in the day. They were just there to be the hard hidden runs
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, step aside and let the backs have a go, then yeah, you gotta come out strong again and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:again.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Speaking of the big Fords and stuff though, and going back to the eligibility thing for Origin and that Adam from Newer Blake was born in Sydney, grew up in Sydney, but he plays for New Zealand. If they get rid of that tier system and he can play for New New South Wales, then you've got Payne Hus and Adams Vanilla Blake in one front row. Wouldn't you want to see that, or wouldn't you? If I was from Queensland?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. From, from Queensland point of view, probably not Adam fan Blake is, I do class him as nearly, at least in the top three of the forwards
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, it would be. Yeah. Yeah, definitely.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:He, he is a very good player. He is player.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:He's on his feet. Like he's not just over all the time he has gotta step on him
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:and he can, he can throw the ball out the back,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I've seen him have a side step, I've seen him step and I'm like, nah, you've got a big enough handful without him stepping away from you, Jesus.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:that's
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:But,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Whe when you're run, when you're running at someone anyway, at that size,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:isn't thinking you're gonna step, they're, they're preparing to be run over.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, yeah. I was thinking of that the other day. I'm you imagine that front row, that'd be ridiculous. if he was gonna take any New Zealand player that could be eligible to play for New South Wales or whatever, he'd be probably the number one picker. in the NFL, I watched the Ravens get beat today. probably lacking in defense more than anything. Lamar was getting frustrated. Derrick Henry getting a little bit frustrated. He's dropped the ball three times in the last three weeks, which is a bit unusual for him. Hasn't got that many runs on the board. but you know, they'll keep going. It'll be a big game next week'cause they come up against the Chiefs. and whichever one loses, that'll be three in one to start the season, which is pretty hard to come back from. they only have the 18 rounds before they go into their final system. But yeah, you gotta, you gotta really be on top of it sometimes, but. Yeah, to be fair, the lines are a good team. They just beat'em through the running, through the middle, with their running backs. And that just absolutely carving up today, really. I fell asleep halfway through the fourth quarter, so that's how good they were doing. But there's been, there's been a few good games this week. the Browns beating Green Bay was massive for them. I wouldn't have picked it to be honest. but no, I, I have noticed though, in the NFL there's been a lot of high scoring. I think there's gonna be a lot of points scored this year. It just seems to be the way that it, it's going this season. But no. Little bit of NFL. I know Zach wanted to mention the Champions League started last week. He, only thought of it after. I don't think we, well, I don't think we're gonna break break into any EPL talk'cause that's more his acting, eh.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That is, that's more a Zach thing.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, well I, I seen the ballon door the day and I think I'll leave that till next or till Zach's on here to talk about if he wants to. yeah, it makes it, it makes it a bit hard when he is, he's working. He can't, but he's gotta go, he's gotta go to work. That's probably the most important part of it. So,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the girls cricket. It's been played last
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:they, the World Cup. Oh,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:is a World Cup? No, that's rugby. That's rugby. The girls have rugby. Cop will cut me on I freaking Australia before and on them.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. I I seen that on the news there the other day. it, it just, from the highlights, it looked very entertaining. It was more of a big bash
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Do you wanna,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:do you wanna know, do you wanna know what I had with, cricket the other day? So last week I was gonna mention it last week, and I thought, nah, I don't wanna get political, but freaking India played Pakistan in a test or something last week and, and, India walked off the field and they didn't shake hands with Pakistan because their countries were at war 12 months ago. Like they were bobbing each other.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:And I'm sitting there oh yeah, probably. Fair enough. And yesterday they played a one day hour and India won it and old mates got on there, one of the Indian players got on there and he's like, oh, they're just coming at us. There was no reason for it. I'm like, you didn't shake their hand last week? I'm pretty sure they're pissed off me. And like, why? What do you reckon? Do you reckon they're a little bit upset about it or what? But yeah, I don't know. You looking forward to the ASEs?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, look, it'll be interesting. I, I, I watch a bit of the cricket sometimes I get bored of it.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. That's where you gotta learn to play in the background.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Like if you, you take me to a actual game, I can sit in the grandstand and watch it. That's fine.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Get, but you're drinking.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:t Yeah, sometimes on tv. I just, yeah. I get
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. I, I don't mind it. I, I like watching the test matches. Like, I'm not quite like Zach sitting down and watch every delivery, but, you know, but at the same time, I'll sit down and watch Bathurst from frigging start flag to finish flag without moving. So each of their own. So you are more, you are more into sprint cars and stuff though, eh,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. More Speedway. Yes.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Speedway stuff. You know, there's a Speedway game on the PlayStation.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yes. I have seen it.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:You've seen it, you haven't played it.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I, I haven't played it. I've
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I thought
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:my phone, but yeah, still, I'm still trying to work out how to download'em yet.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:games.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:The games. Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:You got past five,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:PS four I, I'm not up the tech on them all, but yeah. I
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:four.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think it's other. You freaking VR would freak you out then, eh?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:It probably will.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:It just, that's just for you. But you have no idea how you feel like you're there. really? But you get so immersed in it. So it's so good. I like to get you up here. Have a beer and you can just dick around on the vr.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:It makes you a little bit crook for a bit. You'd probably like the green trees mill on there playing vr. Yeah, no, it's pretty cool. Wrapping, like whipping around Bathurst in like a she or something, eh? Like I don't have the steering wheel yet. I'm sure that adds more to it, but it's pretty cool. Like.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. I suppose I, I suppose with, yeah, with the VR on and having the steering wheel and all that, it'd, it'd probably be more, make it more realistic.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. That's like what I said to Zach. You sort of need, you need the whole frame and everything to hold everything into place.'cause I've had steering wheels and that in the past and that where they've like suction cup to a table and it's never the right, and it never sits in, it never feels the same. Like,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:and you can't really sit it on your lap'cause it needs to be. So, I don't know. The, the, the steering wheels have got they've got nuts from when I used to, they used to just vibrate and stuff when I had'em. But now you've got feedback through the wheel and they turn and it feels like you're driving a car. Like it's, they're pretty cool.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:then, back then when, when you did have the steering wheel and the foot pedals, like, like you were saying, you could suction cup the steering wheel to the table and all that, but then you still had to deal with the pedals where you had to try and like put something behind it. But
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:found, you put something behind it, you couldn't push your foot down and the accelerator or the clutch or the, or the break and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:it'd be sliding out on you. But Having, having a full setup, like a seat, it would be a
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I don't, I don't think the frames are that expensive. It's just an extra thing. I think you can get'em locked with the seat and frame. I think they're only about 150 bucks. They're like Harvey Norman. They're not, they're not that expensive.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. That's
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:wheels are though. The steering wheels are, they're like 800, 700 bucks each. So, but it depends. It depends what you wanna do. But that, that game that we were talking about last week, the frigging project motor sport or motor racing it, if that has as good of game play is what I think it's going to, between that and Dream Trus mow, I could probably justify it.'cause I do spend a lot of time on those sort of games.'cause I do, I, I love me racing and stuff for the best part of things. And, you know, I don't, I don't mind F1, but. Once I learned that there's only a handful of teams that can actually win it and the other ones are just kind of making up numbers and developments and stuff like that, I sort of went away from it. And it's sort of the same with the a PL with me, like from halfway down. A lot of those clubs are got loan players from the top clubs and just giving them game time. So I'd sort of lose interest when I'm thinking about that, but I'm trying to get back around the EPL stuff and all of that. I know that, city had a one old draw the other day with Arsenal that, Zach might be a little bit upset about because it was in stoppage time, so he was right at the end of it, so nearly, nearly got away with it. But yeah, we did a little bit of soccer. He'd be happy with us. Yeah. He's probably sitting here listening to it and all the rugby union stuff. And he'll remember there was a time, that was my idea when, the Wallabies played in Newcastle. They were playing at Scotland. And I'm like, wait, we should go. Hey. And he goes, oh yeah. So him and him and Adrian came with me. We went down there and the whole idea down there, Adrian's like, you, have you seen this rain that's coming on his phone? And I'm like, the hell, it'll be right. It'll be right. It flogged down. We ended up under the grandstand out of the rain.'cause you just could not see it was so, so bad. I just wanted to go to a Wallabies game and fri Yeah, that was ages ago.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:The other, the other big thing for the weekend too, the A FL.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh yeah, there's a final on this weekend.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:The grand final on this weekend, I think. I think that's why the NRL has been separated between the days I think it is.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, they, they took it from the Saturday game'cause it would've been played in Melbourne two hours after the grand and final. So they thought they'd, they'd move that one to Friday and then the Broncos game got moved to Sunday, four o'clock. probably a good move in a way. I think they could've got away with playing the night game on the Saturday'cause of the, the turnaround thing. I know a few people have been getting upset about it and I know that Zach's got a lot to say about that because there was former players that were saying how unfair it is. And he, yeah, I'll leave that for Zach to talk about another time, but, yeah, no, the, I watched, I watched the, Geelong game on the weekend and it was a really good game. Like, I, I was only paying attention to it because, we do our predictions and then we bet on it. Which, who's gonna join us doing it this week?, I was watching it and the long went down and they came back like once they gotta to that second quarter, and then they got in in front by one point at half time. And then after half time they just ran away with it. It was actually a really good game of a FL. I didn't get a chance to have a look at the, the Brisbane one, but, you know, Brisbane's second grand final in two years. And, I wonder if experience might help'em out though. I think Geelong have been to a few grand finals as well. It's the first time they faced each other in a grand final.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's the
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think, I think Brisbane's just been floating along just, yeah. When it comes to the crunch, they've been, they've been stepping up. And doing exactly what they're gotta do. And like you said, they've been to the grand finals, they know what they've gotta do.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:It'll be
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:because they, they both finished second and third
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I'm pretty sure.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah, it'll, it'll be a very interesting game. Like even, even with the points over the last couple weeks, the final scores and that they've roughly both been around the same mark of, of points scored.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:So yeah, it, it, it will be an interesting game. couldn't get too drowned out between the league and the, the A FL
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:No, it,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:but, yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:it's just a good time of year and I, I would probably push Zach to start doing this podcast like right on finals because of when it was so that we had heaps to talk about and we can work our way into doing this. And, it was still part of learning it and stuff like, this is your first time doing anything like this, i've found that the further we go on in episodes, the less I have to edit because we just get more comfortable and stuff because you just get used to kind of talking where at the start you're trying to jump between. So yeah, hope, hoping everything's getting better anyway. but I'm a bit disappointed I'm at work when the a FL Grand finals on, but I'm sure I'll be able to listen to it on the radio or something or
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, I, I probably won't sit down and watch it, but I, I will flick over every now and then and, and see how the game's going.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. I, I tend to, if it's on, I'll sit down and watch it. I, I, I like watching a final, I kind of expect we'll be the best of the best and I wanna see it. It's gonna be a really good game. I know when Willow was born was when the, swans played in their last grand final and got flogged, which was probably a bit, which is unfortunate, but if I, if I was gonna have a team for the a FL, it's the swans,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think it's just'cause they've always been there and it's sort of close, close enough to being local. So. I know that down in Tasmania with the new Tasmanian team going in the in-laws, they've got frigging they've bought, like memberships and stuff like that, just because it's going down there. They're not even a FL fans. So it's a, it's a pretty exciting thing down there that they're getting that.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:did their ground was what was in the news about their ground. They were, they were
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I think it's been, I think it's been pushed back.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:know. I'm not sure when they're getting put into the competition. I dunno if it's another 12 months or if it's next year, but their ground got pushed back for completion. So if they do come in before the ground's completed, they'll probably just find an alternative or, I'm not sure what's in Tasmania. There'd be some, they play cricket down there, so,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. They'd, they'd have to be something around that would
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:fit, fit, fit.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. Yeah. No, it, honestly, it's good to see Tasmania getting some more sport and stuff'cause they do get excluded from a few things. So, I don't, I don't see there ever being a rugby league team down there, but, you never know. You never know what, what will happen, whether it's worth it. So I, I was thinking about expansion the other day in that 20th team'cause you know, you got p and g coming in, which I'm not a fan of to be honest. Not even just because of the whole government thing of it. But, I, I just can't see them being competitive for too long because I love that they've got a team and they can say that they've got a team. I just feel like all their good players, they've got that they've, they're gonna have the intrigue of, oh, okay, you come play for my club in Australia and we'll give you somewhere nice to live.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:And then how are you gonna draw good players to go over there and live in a compound? Zach said that they'd be living out of Cairns or something like that. And I'm like, well, what's the point of having'em there if they're training in Cairns and stuff? It's just name based then. So I, I'm not, it just doesn't seem very organized to what they want it to be. I don't know. If I was looking at the 20th team,'cause obviously Perth's coming in, I think that's a good thing. I think Perth needs that. I think the NRL needs Perth and it's a little, it's another area, if they can develop it and hopefully the Bears can sort of develop something over there. but. I said before, they, they're looking at second New Zealand team or a combined Pacific Island team, which I don't really agree with the same reason as the p and g team, but New Zealand. Yeah. I can see the second New Zealand team been a success, but everyone always looks you, I think if you went back to Queensland, you've got Rock Hampton is likely, but they don't have a stadium.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Do, do you look at Darwin?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I dunno, maybe.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Para take a few of their games to Darwin and it doesn't seem like a bad game.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:No,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Sorry.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:no, no. It, it, it could work. I, it's whether or not. they'd wanted in Darwin to be honest, but I, I was, I was thinking the other day, what if you took it to somewhere Albury or, you know, took it south, between Melbourne and Canberra there, or you know, between Cam Wollongong and that fucking, you'd have to go, you'd have to go lower than, Wagga I think.'cause it's you gun guy and all that, that it's massive down there. Rugby league. So I was just thinking if you had an Aubrey Wodonga team just calling the Bush Rangers or something,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, it would.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:have.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, it would work. Yes. Yeah, it'd, it'd fit in real well.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, it's whether or not they want to though, but at the same time,, they need to build a stadium, so it'll, that'll probably dictate where you go. Really? Like even in Darwin, they'd need upgrades and it's whether or not the Northern Territory government wanna,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:um, put money in.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:the day, I think. I think the NRL is just looking where they can make the most money from. Really
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Oh, it is a business. It is a business at the end of the day, so you can't get too upset by'em.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:No, that's
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:You got anything else on sports wrap?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:no, that's about it
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:No.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:that I, that I can think of.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:All right. We can do some game talk. I,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:This week they were, I didn't have too much. I've tried to find a little bit, I played the new skate game today. It's not too bad, it's a little bit fortnightly for me. I remember the skate games being more of the, along the realistic side of things compared to Tony Hawke. Um, do you play Tony Hawk and stuff?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. So I used to play a lot of Tony.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:A lot of it.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:It's still, it's still pretty good, to be honest. Like I, I haven't bought the 3 4 1 that they've just brought out, but I've got the other one. I'll smash that for ages when it come out. Skate, I only played a little bit of it. I'm still not dunno yet. I'll, I'll hold out on that. But what I did notice was that they're doing the remake of, black Flag and I promise, I'm not trying to mention remakes every week it just so happens that it comes up and it just goes to show they're doing a lot as of late anyway. I'm gonna be a bit upset if, they bring Black Flag out as a remake and it is the a hundred dollars and they're taking stuff out of the game. Did you ever play the original Assassin's Creed?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:No, I was, I was more of the war ones. The war games, war, war and car racing. Really, they,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:they, they were the ones that I really mostly played the,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:in
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Well, Assassin's Creed, when it first come out and that it was like you started off in this they called it an Abacus thing and you're in modern times and then you get taken back to a time in the past, and then you play out as that character in the past.'cause it's supposed to be a blood relative that that they take you back to, to learn how to be part of the creed and learn stuff and, all this stuff. But they're taking that out of black flag, so it won't be there. It'll just purely be a pirate game. But the story, and everything's still there, but they're taking the other bit out of it. So, because I know they're trying to add some other stuff, but I, I just know that they're gonna, it's gonna be a full price game. Buy this, I can still go play Black Flag on my PS five from PS four. I don't, I don't need to go and buy the new one. I just don't understand why it is that expensive. But we've said that before that it upsets us. So I just wanted to point out that, they're, they're taking that video out of it, so. yeah, it hasn't been too much on games. I'm looking forward to Battlefield six, ages ago when I left the Army, which is probably more along your war realm type of thing'cause it is battlefield. But, we, when, I left the Army, I had some mates in the Army that I used to, we used to, have a group online on Facebook and that, and we'd go and play Battlefield One when it first come out. The, the World War I one and, We used to having so much fun online with that, like we put heaps of hours in there. I think Zach ended up coming and playing and, you know, it was just a great big community and used to have heaps of fun. But since then Battlefield has moved in the sort of online only modern thing. And that's what the last one was. It was like 2042 or something, and it was large in scale and it had the right idea and everything. But I would love to go back to that. it's supposed to be, from what I've seen, it's supposed to be that they're going back to that sort of, you know, smaller, smaller map type thing and more like the battlefield one. So I'm, I'm looking forward to it. I'm hoping that it has a single player storyline thing to it.'cause I, I do enjoy those ones and I'm more drawn when they do have those, Even the Call of Duty ones, I like doing them. It's just that Call of Duty's such a massive game and it takes up so much room on your PlayStation that I kind of avoid'em now paying for it. Well I think we'll jump into the predictions this week. I reckon I do. I really didn't have much on gaming this week.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:no predictions., I'm thinking IES
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Rough years.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I reckon the sharks will do the storm.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I reckon one to 12 sharks, one to 12,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah. I think it's gonna be a tight game. So one to 12 is probably a safe bet to be honest.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:That's the thing, like storm, they've got drone coming back for three weeks from the surgery.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:You see what happened to him last time he come back, he was only on there for a bit and got injured again.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:So I think it was two weeks ago, three weeks ago, he broke his arm.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yep.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:So, and he is, come back from that, which is pretty quick. Shane Webkey come back from a broken arm in the 2006 grand final in 28 days.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:So it's not that it can't be done, I'm pretty confident if he wasn't ready to go, Craig Bellamy wouldn't be playing him.'cause he doesn't really need to'cause Wisard and Pez. It's been doing a great job in, in the halves and that. Anyway, so, I think he'll be ready to go. I don't think you have to worry about Jerome Hughes, but
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:I, I think it's just gonna be a nice tight game. Between
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:and the sharks.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I don't really want to be picking any of these games this week and that's, I've left them outta my predictions altogether, I could see the sharks probably winning because the Melbourne have had a few games this year where they've just haven't turned up. So going off that and the, the Sharks, they're gonna have to be on their game to beat the sharks. The sharks will be up for it. the only other thing that I'll say is that, Nico Hines come through the storm system and Craig Bellamy know his game pretty well and he how to unsettle him. So, but you've got Trindle there who, can take a bit of the heat off of, Heinz or Hez can just, he might just step up and take him on, so, yeah, yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:my, and my other prediction, Brisbane line over Geelong
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:to come home and
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:final.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah., I was sitting there watching the other day that like with their comeback and where they just held onto it. But yeah, I. I think that it could be a go either, either way, anyway, from all the reports I've seen, so,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Really, I'm only thinking that solely because of Brisbane being in the, in recent grand finals and that, so,
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. Yeah. No, that's fair enough. Yeah. Yeah, we were just going through experience and probably a safe bet, really. So we got what, four from nine last week, so we haven't been going too well. We haven't won any money yet, but we'll, we'll see how we go. Like we said last week, do not listen to us and put bets on based on your knowledge. We're just three idiots, so,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:What's your, what's your predictions?
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:I've got Arsenal to beat Newcastle, so I'll just put Arsenal beat in Newcastle and I've, after today I put me, I put this prediction in before I watched the Ravens played today, and then I've had to think about it. I think. The Ravens will step up and beat the Chiefs. The chiefs haven't been playing particularly well, the last, well since the start of the season. And I think the Ravens will want to go out and prove a point. And like I said, their defense let'em down today. The running backs were just running through'em and absolutely carving them up. So, and they've had a few players that have been missing outta that defensive line too, so you can't be too harsh on'em. So I've got, yeah, my, my predictions this week will be Arsenal to be Newcastle and then Ravens to be the Chiefs next week. And I'm hoping I'm right because it's gonna be hard to come back from three and one, after that.. I've also got Zach's predictions. Here he is. Got city to beat Burnley, by three plus. Which is probably a fair thing. I don't see Burnley getting the win over city. and then he's got the Patriots to bounce back this week against the Panthers, which surprises me is he's probably made a pretty good educated guess on that one, to be honest. So yeah, that's our predictions for this week. So, so here was your, podcast debut
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Wasn't too bad.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:wasn't too hard.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:wasn't
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:a bit different, isn't it?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:It is a bit different.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah, yeah,
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:bit involved in it.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:yeah. There is a little bit. I, I need to be better organized. I, yeah, probably haven't been the best organized, so yeah. You are gonna stay on permanently or you just gonna be an occasional thing?
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:We will see how we go. Yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:Yeah.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:in every now and then, or, yeah.
the-incoherent-podcast_1_09-23-2025_195839:No, I think, I think it will add a little bit more, having three, to be honest. that's what I was thinking the other day. I was hoping that Zach could jump on today, but it unfortunately he's working. So he sent us a message right at the end saying that I, he can't do it, so go on without him. So, and we did, but we'll see how we go next week. I think Zach's out as well. I'll try and get across games and stuff like that, but yeah, either way, if everyone can go and like the Facebook page, Instagram follow us on, Spotify, we've had a fair few listeners and stuff, so it's been been progress. Pretty decently. It hasn't been as good as what the first week was, but I didn't expect that, but I was still, still pretty happy with how everything's progressing. And we'll just keep at it so I can release on Thursdays. next week we've gotta record on Wednesday, so, and then, yeah, next week we'll be leading into the grand final anyway, so, yeah, so hopefully, hopefully we can organize a time for Zach to come and do it anyways. But, I know he wouldn't wanna miss the grand final one, so we'll see how we go. We'll talk to him through the week, but until next week, it's buy from us.
squadcaster-2f43_1_09-23-2025_195839:Thank you. Bye.
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