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Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

We're back for episode six of the Incoherent Podcast, Zach and How are years going?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It's,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

going. Good. How are you?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

episode 6.1 because, well, you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

6.2. 6.2. I didn't delete his. Zach dropped out and I lost all the conversation. It wasn't very exciting, me talking to myself like a fuck wit. So

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

You, you muted us out, don't lie.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I didn't. Definitely didn't get in, get it done. So what did you get up to over the weekend?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Oh, we got a bit of shit done at home. had a lawn and that. Done a bit of shit at home and had some stuff out at the farm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Didn't buy a PS five.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I didn't buy a piece of wife, but maybe Santa Santa might bring it to me.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

go buy Zoe some flowers and she might get you one. Seems like,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It's her birthday. It's her birthday next week, so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

five.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Oh good.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

got this four.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

that before.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It's an expensive weekend for you, Hoover, if we go to the PBR.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Oh yeah. I know.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

can get a PBR game on. There's a PBR game on first fight.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I got one on my phone. PB game.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Phone gaming's not gaming.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

kids. Yeah, the kids play.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

There isn't. PBR eight second game, I've always thought about trying it, but it just, I don't know. I think it's cheap now too. It used to be expensive. It was like 60 bucks or something like that. Not for that, yeah, that'd be pretty cool.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Something

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

we'll have our games on there. We'll be playing arc and battlefield and shit and Hoover will have PBR and fucking speed Speedway. So anyway. Now I know you used didn't watch Bathurst'cause we did an episode yesterday and you just told me our shit is'cause it's not forward verse Holden, even though it's exactly the same racing, they've just got different shells on'em and say they're different manufacturers, but.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

went and picked the kids up a good earlier, and fucking teacher, she even said Bathurst is not the same because it's not Ford versus Holden anymore.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

What are teachers? They,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

she likes Bathurst. She sat there and watched it all weekend, but even she admits it's not the same.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I'm just looking forward to the super, I think they was, was pretty cool watching Monster have a beer up on deal with the, with the fans, that wasn't too bad.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. That's getting around to everywhere at the moment on social media. They were even talking about it on the radio when I was coming home from work. Yeah. They were all over it talking about it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

lost it. I just can't wait till he gets into that super, to be honest. I'll be happy then. I love the super, but apparently, I was reading today that the, the other teams have been complaining already about the the shape and everything. Well, you said the other day Uber, so, but it's gonna be an

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

and this and that, but. just see what happens next year I suppose. But I'm looking forward to it. Look sick, getting around the track. I think it'll be good next year. It's good one to come off. Anyway, bit of rain. I was sitting around waiting for the rain. I was waiting for a car there for a bit and I think I was on the edge of my seat for half the brace to be honest. So yeah. But I think the other big news coming up today since we did the Bob Cast was the 10 year bin on fucking players gonna 360 from the NRL and I cannot see that working out very well for the NRL'cause that'd be a restraint of trade if the players are off contract. don't think they're gonna be allowed to, do shit to be honest.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Do you reckon? Do you reckon it will actually happen, but, or is it all just trying to put the wind up and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

or the being,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No, the band, the band.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

bin. But it was the same thing the PGA went through with the Liv. They tried to band players from coming back to the PFGA and then when they decided to stay with Liv at kind of faded away and now they've sort of joined together sort of thing and came to a deal agreement. So I think they did the same thing with the Super league'cause they'd been players from playing state of origin and for Australia and stuff and used a RL players only. So, you know, they're all threats. But when it comes down to actual law shit in, in a courtroom, that's where things change. it depends on what the law states and I can't see an agent getting banned if a player's off contract and their sole job is to get'em there. best deal that they can get them and you are restraining them from that sort of trade? I can't, I can't see it happening, to be honest, when I, when I think about it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't think the, the agent will get banned try, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, it's in the past and it hasn't worked out so well for'em. So,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

but as for the players, if they break contract,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

That's different.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

their club and go over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

taking a big gamble.'cause if that R 360 doesn't take off doesn't last 10 years, They can't come back. They, they're restricted to, yeah, they can go to rugby union, go play for Rugby Australia, or go over to Japan and make some good dollars. But a big risk.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, it's a massive risk, especially if you haven't played Rugby Union before, but it's, it's definitely not the same game and it doesn't translate as easily as what people think. Look, it does to the players that have played it before, more than anything, even Matt Rogers, he, he went to a rugby union school. He grew up playing rugby union more than he played rugby league, despite who his father was. that was in the book I read of his, know, saying that it was actually a goal of his to play in the World Cup and that,'cause he grew up playing rugby union, so that's why those sort of players, they transition a lot easier. But as you've seen with Benji Marshall and stuff like that, it's not so easy for them. So.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. speaking of union, the rugby league and Rugby league, the union, all the boys got off on the plane to go away on tour, out of the ashes Wanita. Wase turns up with his Rugby Australia suitcase to go on a k go

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

seen that. Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

You,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I see that they're all, they're all filling me at the airport.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Can't be doing that. You still got a contract next year

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, yeah. So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

if he's paying as well?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

What are they gonna do? really if he, what if, if they said, oh no, we're gonna, we're gonna find your son too easy. He just leaves and goes back to rugby union. he's gonna get picked up straight away.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

just as well next year as what he did this year, I'm still picking him for the blues. straight up. I don't, I don't care.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Oh yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

like, know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

still got a contract with rugby league. So you pick your best players.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

even

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

he was going and then,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

he, he took care of his own state of origin career,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Well,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

He took Walsh's head off.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Which he,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

packed Walsh's head in a bag and took it with him.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

at the moment, it seemed to have woke him up, to be honest. So he is killing it. Really? So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I wish somebody had take his fingernails though.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

no, I, there's a bloke at work, then his daughter paints his fingernails for him, and I'm like, look at him. I'm like, you know, you got toenails, right? And he's like, I didn't think of that. I'm like, because

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, that's,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

used to do it, we play fifa and if you got beat by Neil, you had to paint your toenails. And we used to do it all the

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

got, kept a nil, you'd start with your toenails and you had to work up, just depending on how many games we played. So,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

That's why you always used to lose, was it?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

no.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

actually it does make sense when you line up with Mardi Gras

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I thought it was funny when Zach's sitting there playing the game and he got a breakaway on the game and he is laying on me lounge. Next minute he fell off me lounge because he's done a hemi sitting on me lounge in real life. Missed the goal.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I did. I did cramp up. Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

He's a cramp mid freaking break in the game, and he just fell to the floor like shit. I'm like, fuck just happened. He got a cramp. He pulled a hemi

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

fuck. So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

you, it was about the 18th hour we played that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. Yeah. Well, that was when, when FIFA was good. So, no, it's still good. Still all right. It's not too bad. But back when we were right into it, because I think it was all, I played there for a while, but, I don't think the threat will go very far. I think it'll just take one player to test it, to find out that it, you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

legally they don't

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, that's the thing. What, what happens if you see, well, two of us is pretty much nearly locked in for it. You could say that. Go, he's, he's coming to the end of his career. Good on him for going and getting the big money if he's gonna do it. What about if say Kimm wants to do it,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

contract.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

they gonna, are they, but Yeah. But are they gonna turn around and say, no, you're not allowed back for 10 years.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It doesn't have 10 years left. In him,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

No. He is only got,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

be somebody like dry,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

What?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

gray, or.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

What?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I don't think Cleary asked to, he hasn't got any reason to come back. If he did go,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, I did,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

read something the other day about theory and how they're gonna try and entice him is they wanna get him in a Europeans area so he can be closer to Mary Fowler.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

did see a pretty funny, see the photo of him proposing the other day and then someone took the photo and pulled up and said, Nico Hines has just just been proposed to on Nathan Cleary and it actually looked like it was Nico Hines. It was pretty funny. Like all in good humor, but yeah. But I think if he does go, that's what, that's what he's got going for him. Go see the world and stuff. He's already done everything in rugby league, so he doesn't necessarily need to come back he did go and if he get a big payday, so, but like I, like I said, the other players,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

big payday under the super league too, like.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

oh yeah. Yep. But it just depends where they're at at their career. Like they, they'd understand what both of their careers are and where it's about, it's at as well. So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

know, it's just one of those things, you know, I, I think Adam Elliot and Millie Elliot have done the long distancing pretty well. And then there's um, what's his name? Jensen from the Broncos.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Corey Jansen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

in North

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

he's still in Townsville and he is just, yeah, she's just like, yeah, just go do your career and what's another couple of years. So, you know, there's some understanding people out there, so. Yeah. Cory Parker said the other day that fucking the PM 13 game doesn't matter anymore. I, I still like seeing it, but not like it was played this year.'cause normally it's played with the teams that are outside the eight, their players get selected, not the teams well playing in the Grand Final. At least they don't, they don't get to play in it. this year they did have the players from the grand Final playing in it. sort of a reward to those up and coming young players, should they look at doing it in a different way and have it as like an under 20 fives or something?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't mind it. The players that, sort of aren't in that top Australian squad, I mind

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Hmm.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

them being able to play. But it, it was, it was a better spectacle I thought when Yeah, it was the players from the outside, the top eight, giving them something to still strive for. I mean, yeah, but if you're gonna pick, like this year you got that Australian. S team and then you still pick a, a second 11 or prime minister's 11 to play in another series. Well, it's, it's a reward to push all the NRL players really.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

as internationals grow, you could expand on it so that you do got your first 11 and your second 11 teams.'cause there is enough players running around

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Like sort of like Australia A and b, A and that. So yeah, I think you can do, I think it can be used as a development sort of thing,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

so.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

And going to it under 20 threes, they trolled that a few years ago ago. and then sort of, it was, yeah, one off and then they went away from it pretty quick.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Oh

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, that's the thing. look at that under 20 threes if you do do it. Most of the players that are in the. B side could play in the B

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, you look

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

side. Anyway,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

if they, I read, I think it was on Clark, he's column there, he had the under 23, so, and there was four or five of them already picked in that Australian squad anyway, a few others that are now playing internationals for other, other countries. But it's that development side of things. I think it's, be good for the game and it'll be good to build that international base.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that's ev, that's even people blowing up about, Kev Wilders, picking mostly the Queensland side or, or the grand final sides and all that. But like he said, he goes, he wants the best players for the, for the.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

well Queensland did win state of origin, so you can, you can still pick'em, like can look at that anyway.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

That's right.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it was no different to the nineties when you look

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

side and them turned around and played for Queensland and then went on to play for Australia at the back end of the year. And,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, I, I still remember when the Australian teams were majority of the grand final team

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

like it was just a few players from each team, pretty much. And there was no extra ones. And now they're all worried about the incumbents and all that stuff. So, but I still think that, I still think the Prime Minister's 13 has a place in the game. They just might have to reformat it a little bit if they're gonna be playing more internationals.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

it's, I think it's important to go over and play in Papua New Guinea like that each year. It's only gonna help them develop. So even though they've got an NRL team coming in, but. Which, good segue to the next thing. P and g are the chiefs. Like the Chiefs.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. I like to know.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I'm, I'm, I'm happy with the name, the other name there was the Pythons. So

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I would prefer the Chiefs to the Pythons. And you know, the, oh, what is it, prime Minister or the leader for p and g is, he, he said that it translates to both women and men when, when they have a woman women's team come in. So,'cause they have women chiefs over there, so, yeah, I think, I think that's pretty good. And it'll suit'em well or see what the colors and stuff are and, yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

think they venture away from those. Yeah, it'll be much.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Well I'm not, I'm not a hundred percent sure if they are or they're not, to be honest. because you got the bears coming in, they're red and black, so,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. But the p and g, it's not a, a real red color. It's that. Yeah. It's got that orange.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Reddish Orange. Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't mind the p and g Hunters

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Even,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. That's the thing. They're more, they're moreish, orange, yellow, and black. Really?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it's they, they're not bad colors. And I mean, if they've already it submitted, well, it'll just a waiting game to see

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

whether they go ahead with it or not.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. And from what I've seen as well, they come in in 28, but there is a chance that it could get pushed back to 29 maybe. So I'm guessing they'll get the beers launched, set up p and g, and I'm guessing they're gonna announce the 20th team'cause I think they're going full steam ahead with it. But hopefully the as a general thing doesn't, doesn't lack because of it, because it'll take some time to build

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Hmm,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

up to be able to accommodate those teams with so many coming in.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that's right. the NRL gonna be ready to like the bears? They're not gonna be red hot straight away.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

that about the dolphins

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

you gonna they're, yeah, but see the dolphins, it, it took the first season for everyone to start. people jumped on the bandwagon.'cause they're a new team in the comp. But if you are gonna have the bears come next year, people jump on that and then they go, oh, righto, now we're gonna throw in the chiefs the year after. yeah, they're trying to, I think they're just trying to let the bears settle in first and then bring the chiefs in.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, the 2028 was already released before they said that the bears were coming in, so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

And that was because of setting

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

infrastructure and getting ready for the team to come in, so,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Bit

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that 20th team though, like setting it up, if they do decide to go over second New Zealand side, they've, they've got the infrastructure over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

The same as Perth, that they can, they can take the next 12 months just to organize players. They've already got me on Meninga there. They're already getting, CEOs and all that all in place.'cause they can't sign players until the 1st of November. So

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, well, Mel wants to have players signed and in stone before Christmas break, whether they're grade starters or fringe players. But he wants 10 out of his top 30 signed before Christmas, so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. I've got, I've got some opinions on that, but I'll leave it until, another two weeks and we'll do a, a Bears episode on what our thoughts on what they should do and what they should be looking at to be successful. So, yeah,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Ano. Another thing I heard Devo on the way home. I'll throw this out. It is. And see what you think. the Knights coach, no, not the Knights coach, Titans coach and I,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. I know where you're going. Yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

he, he, he signed for the three years, but they've said if yeah, there's clause, if Bellamy leaves Melbourne, he can be the head coach the following year. What do you think about that?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I don't think Bellamy will take up the offer.'cause I don't think bellamy's the sort of person to step on somebody else like that. I could see him going into a head of football sort of role and stepping away from the coaching, like still have a bit of a hands-on role, but not the full-on But, you know, anything can happen in rugby league. He's said before that he's retiring at the end of the year and then goes another 12 months. So, and it depends.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, that's all he does. Just 12 months

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Oh,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

time.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

signed for longer than that. He just, it's for whenever he wants to pull up stumps. Basically he was signed eight, like an eight year deal or something and it's when he wants to pull up stumps, so, yeah. It'll be one of those things where we probably won't know till the end of next year or the start of the season after what's gonna happen there. But I could see him going up there and living with his family and all that and you know, doing a more office sort of role in that head football management and doing the recruiting and stuff like that, and building the team from the outside. So could team doing that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

more. A mentor.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

see him go out a winner,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I was kind of expecting. If Melbourne won the Grand Final a couple weeks ago, I was yeah, half expecting Bellamy to turn around and say I'm actually retiring.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I think he deserves, he's had that, career and he deserves to go outer winner if he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

He's also had a pretty damn well good career that he's, he's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, you can't.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that he deserves and yeah, I kind of agree if he does go to the Titans or the Dolphins or Brisbane or whoever he goes to when he goes back to Queensland, because I think he bought a house up there not long

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. He bought a, he bought an apartment, a three and a half million dollar apartment in the Gold Coast.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

when, when he does go back home, I think, yeah, he, I don't think he into another coaching role. He,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Uh, no, I, I'd like to see it, to see like how good he is if he can turn the Titans around, but I don't, don't see happening as a coach. I think it'd be more a mentor sort of role for Hannah. and it'd only benefit Hannah to be honest. But there's a lot of coaches that have come outta that Melbourne system that are not doing too bad. So we weren't

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It is a bit of a kick in the guts, isn't it really?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

If Hannah signed the contract and it was already stipulated, it's not

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, he would've known,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I think, I think it's only came out today really, because

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

he

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that's what there's, I.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

with that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, he would've

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

a lawyer read it, he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

that's just, that's just,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it's just coming up today whenever it was. So it's been, now it's known to everyone else, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. Yeah. But it, they, it what I read on it, it said that it had a clause that if they can get Bellamy, that they'll replace him with Bellamy and he would've had to sign it. If that hasn't happened, that'd be. The most titans thing ever to come out and go, oh, we're gonna take Bellamy and swap coaches to try and improve themselves.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

All.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

at the end of the, at the end of the day, you can have all the best players in the, in the NRL playing for the one team doesn't mean they'll all get along and play together. Well, have the right sort of people in place to be able to, to play well. So, but, whole KR won the Super League. Apparently they're still trying to push to get the World Club Challenge, whether it's the week before Vegas or trying to work something out so that they can still play it, but it looks more likely it's not gonna happen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Can't be

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

But

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

round one.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah, I still, I still reckon that it's, it needs to be played now

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

It should be played this weekend. And there's no reason that

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

It should be played this weekend in England after the Grand Final. We've had two weeks off to travel, and you can go over and you can play it. It should be played this week. But they're not doing that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't about him playing in England is their dead ball lines. And it always affects the kicking game of any Australian team that's gone over there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

well, every individual club has their own dimensions and stuff for a field, so I think, I think Melbourne have a narrower dead bull line than what everyone else does.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

but if, it just, none of them are gonna be the same size as Brisbane's. But I, I do agree. I think if they went over there now and played it, the week bef in between their grand final and the Ashes series. And then Broncos players or whoever wins the Grand Final in Australia go off to their respective country's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it does, it does push the international game back though, doing it that way. That's all. So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, no, because the, it only pushes the, the Tongans and that back, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. But if you, if Australia wasn't gonna England, they'd be playing in Australia and even that one, two weeks at this time of year, it gets more hot, it's more a, they'll be doing like quarters because they'll be doing drinks breaks and all that stuff, which is kind of annoying you watch it, when it's too hot and they do that stuff. It's a good thing that they do it, it just, it interrupts the flow of the game I find.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

you have drinks, break every three sets'cause the referees are gonna give away a penalty for fucking something stupid.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I seen the England team get released and AJ Brimson playing in there. There's a couple of other NRL players playing in there, but the Brimson one to me, he only played origin three years ago and now he's playing for England. No one's battered an eyelid, but as soon as they want people playing for New South Wales and Queensland, if they're relevant, they want to kick and scream that they're not playing for Australia. So does that whole tier thing even matter anymore?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

not really. Like,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I'd be, I'd be happy for Brimson to still play for Queensland next year if they needed him.'cause you can know that they'll find a way to put him in there either way. But

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

well, that, well, that's the thing. You look at, look at, new South Wales five eight with Samoa, blue Eye. Victor Radley, he didn't get picked for Australia there one year, so he went to England

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

East,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

and played for them.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

origin, but he's probably the one that think about. Well, he grew up in Australia. He is playing for his heritage in England. Just the same as what the Samoans and the Tongans are. But they can still play origin. Why can't he go play for his heritage?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

welders pretty well nailed it when he said he wants the best players. As a fan, the fans wanna see the best players playing origin,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

they wanna see best players playing international football for their international teams.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

do with the whole New South Wales, do you just go back to. Where you first played or made your grade debut. So if you make your grade debut in Queensland, doesn't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I don't think you can do,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

doesn't matter

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

side you play for, are eligible to play for Queensland or New South

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

and it just gets rid of the whole tier system. Then they can just for whatever international, whoever they wanna defer to.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I think if you've lived in Australia before you were 12, add Blake, he grew up in Sydney. He was born in Sydney, but he placed for New Zealand. I think he should still be able to play for New South Wales.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

You can pay your junior football,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

really matter. That's why I think if you make it where your grade debut is, if you make your grade debut

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

on the other side of the border up in Canto country,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

play for cantos.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah. No, no. That could work. That could work. I, I, I'd rather see the cutoff if you are living here before you're 12.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Victor Radley used to play the Tamal Lolo's to go and play for Queensland.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, it, there's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

controversy around that rule

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

of

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I think they're gonna get rid of it. I think it's just gonna be a free for all because the Tongans and the Samoans are just taking the players at the end of the year anyway, so you're not, and you're not losing that much. So we just said that you could have an Australia B team that'd be still a decent team, or you're not losing as much as what you think you are. So, and then, you know, it makes it more competitive. It makes it more watchable. It's not as watchable when you go, oh no, Australia's got all the good players because they play origin. no other country has the origin. They don't have the intensity of origin and those big games like that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

to be able to learn off.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

New Zealand's second team comes in.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Or sort of.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

but like we've discussed before, during that origin period, I, you can quite easily have a buy period within the NRL and have it as an international break.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Tongans, if you don't get picked for New South Wales or Queensland and you still wanna represent your heritage,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

to still play representative football and those like the, games this weekend between Tonga and all them, they could be played during the year.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah, yeah.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So on that origin. Right. I just thought of it. Then. If New Zealand did bring in the other team and they'd done the origin, it'd be north versus south. Obviously you play one game in North, one game in South. Do you bring one over to Australia and then for New South Wales and Queensland, do you do one in Queensland? One New South Wales, one in New Zealand.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

of taking a game to New Zealand in a couple of years. They're negotiating to do it, so

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I don't think it should,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

the line. I do not, I don't even like it. Gonna Melbourne.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I don't have a problem with it. Gonna Melbourne and Perth and all that. you're just trying to build the game with the biggest spectacle. it's the biggest thing that they've got to offer.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Like,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

they, they're not part of state of origin. State of

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

is New South Wales, first Queensland. if New Zealand do go down that line of having a south versus north, well, but they've got three big, pretty good decent parks where they could draw in massive crowds. You

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

at Decider, played at Eden Park

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

a drizzly Wednesday night or

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

They won't, they won't, they won't put a decider there. It'll be game two or game one. Probably game two. It'll be the same as what they do now. They play the first one you need to Sydney or Brisbane, and then the second one's played in either Perth or Adelaide or Melbourne.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

do a decider there. The decider will go alternative every year. So, but you gotta have a decider. But they do do that second game because it's still up for grabs. It's not a dead rubber.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Eden Park still, it's, yeah. It's neutral ground.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

no,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

we they reckon they take a origin game. Look, game one of Origin, take it to Vegas at the beginning of the year.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

How

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

You see'em doing that?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

how do you pick your players on it? you got, you got a lot of players still just sort of on the back end of recoveries, just getting ready for one, makes it hard

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I agree. I agree.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

if you want to, if you want to, if you want to figure and showcase the Americans what the best of your sport is, that's what you're taking. I know they've taken it there before. I know it's happened before.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

just do Australia versus New Zealand. That's a, that'd be a good game for'em because

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I wanna,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

they just, they just like going out and hurting each other.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I would like to see the ANZAC test come back.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I actually like, union did it when the line's done the tour, they'd done an Anzac team where it was made up of Australians and Zealanders, just the one team made up of the two countries and they played as Anzacs against the British lines. But I think he could do that in rugby

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Hmm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I reckon that'd be a

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

pretty good game, to be honest, if they got it off the ground. Like you're stealing some, an idea from Rugby Union, I actually really like that idea and I was thinking that the other day. That'd be a pretty cool concept. if you did like an Anzac versus the British Lines, you got the best of Super League and the best of the NRL playing against each other in America, you're gonna get the same sort of result, I think.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't think you do. I think the Australian New Zealand sided what the park with'em and Yeah. I don't think the, the fans in America really need to see it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Like if they, if England come out in this Ashes series and Beat Australia two, one or three nil and then they can beat New Zealand in the World Cup next year, you'd probably consider doing a combined squad.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

But I, I don't think England competes with either Australia or New Zealand

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

On their own.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

couple of years, or even in the next few years.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, but British, British Lines is a bit different'cause you're adding all those other to it as well. It's not just England. There's a few NRL players that play for like Island or

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Well, you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

you know,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, a

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Wales.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

play for Italy and that, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Well, you're not gonna include Italy in a English thing.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No, I'm just saying you've got those couple players playing for other countries, but England. Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Something to think about. Anyway, I think it'd be a pretty cool concept to get off the ground if you could find someone to play if it was a combined Pacific Islands team against the Anzacs

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Well, that'd be a bit different.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

combined Tonga and Papua New Guinea, Cook Islands, Fiji. That'd be, that'd probably work too.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So be a lot of.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

You'd probably be best off. Yeah, you'd be best off just to keep that in Australia. Really.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, I did mean a lot more to us. I'm just thinking with just ways to showcase things without taking origin there. I know that the a FL are doing their origin before the season starts, and they're worried about people just pulling out. So I would be interested to see how that goes. Anyway, I'll be watching that, but, whole KR won the Super League pretty convincingly, like I said before, but the, the funny thing I've seen out of it is Jared Warri Hargroves has been suspended for four games after he retired. So he suspended for life and he is the most suspended NR role player ever. Although that was pretty cool

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, I see that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

that's, that's a pretty, that's a fair effort to be honest. yeah. the, A-League starts this week. If he's got any tips on the A-League.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I've been thinking

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Did it.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I'm either, I'm either gonna go,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

deal.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it did actually,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

you? I've seen you think before. It doesn't end well.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it was either the Jets or the Central Coast Mariners I was thinking about. And they play the first game, don't they?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

to Rrb first game. Consider it's not called the F three anymore. Don't they have a little piece of concrete out of the F three that they use as a trophy or something?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

The, there used to be a sign on the side of the road saying you are now entering Jets, jets area, or Jets country and that, and I think it was the, central Coast blokes, they got out there and they took photos and like put shit all over it on the way to the game. That was a few years ago.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

dunno, I don't, I think the Jets played well during the cup. They won the cup, but I think they, they leading their fans into a bit of a false

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

They've got, they've got some good kids coming through to be honest. And they do. They've got,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

plenty of good kids over the years and yeah, it,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

takes one or two injuries through the middle of that park and.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

or break a season.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

And they do, they have a trophy that's a concrete core sample ahead of the F three and it's part of a trophy that goes that whichever team wins it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

That's pretty cool. So I'll just had a look at it then. Yeah. Yeah. Well, have you got anything else for sport other than the Raven suck and I'm starting to get.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Ravens. Yeah, they do suck. We, we discussed this the other week and you were all four. The Ravens are gonna turn it around. They're gonna win the league and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

They've had players out, players come back, they'll sort it out.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I think

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

And if Fells and f Fells a funny thing, it's, it's no different than a rugby that's no different to a NRL. You make those finals and you can make your own destiny. Anything can happen.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

And INL is a very short season compared to the, NRL. So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

They've only got, they've only gotta find, they've only gotta find themselves in a World card spot and they could be on a run. So I'm not giving up yet. I'll give up when they're not yet. So,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So win the wooden spoon for their conference.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

they, they, the, the Buccaneers are going all right. To be honest, I quite rate the Buccaneers to this year

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

doing really well.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

other than sort of those main things, Socceroos Yeah. Played the I don't even know what Canada's nickname is or, yeah, they played Canada

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

We will just say maple leaves. They're always the maple leaves.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

well, maple Bacons,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Maple Bacons. I love maple bacon. Have you ever had maple bacon?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I it on the cruise last year. Oh, it's fucking good. I even like the streaky bacon

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, no, I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

they have. It's fucking good.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it at all. No, I, I like

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I love it.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

a big bacon believer,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

You look like bacon.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

You look,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I do love baking. Yes. So, but yeah. So Socceroos one year win, looking good for their World Cup campaign next year, but they're sitting on, well, they're qualified already.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

top of their table

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

five

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

hopefully they get a good group and not a group of death that they seem to get every World Cup.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Well, think, I still think there's a lot of, a lot of distance between Australian soccer and the rest of the world, but,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Or, yeah, you can look at it that way.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

every, every group's a group of death for Australia most of the time. So

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

That's right. And we I've, yeah, I've seen in the past, you only need to finish top two and you get a lucky goal and go keep on advancing. But as long as Italy don't take a dive and rip us off again, well yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

there's some drama in soccer sometimes.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yep. No, it certainly is. other than that as well, the bloody women's T 20 Cricket is, they're on fire. Another win. They, they probably should go through and win that T 20 World Cup, Australian, Australian Batten lineup. They, they just bat from one through to 11. The bowling lineups. Yeah. They compete against some of the men's teams,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Um, oh, David Warner saying if Pat Cummins didn't make the team, that he doesn't see Australia going too well without him.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

David Warner also said that Australia were playing for the Ashes and ING England were playing for pride. So bit of ter.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I don't think, yeah, leaving Cummins, he's a good captain, but seen when he is been out before and Steve Smith just slot straight back in there and yeah, nothing really changes there. we do lose that extra bat sort of that number eight role, Scotty Bowling will come in, you'd think, and he adds just as much to that bowling lineup as Cummins does and mean if I'm England Batten line up, I'm pretty scared'cause they gotta go back to the G face. Scotty

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Well, I don't, I don't think, England are scared'cause Stuart Broad said that it's the worst Australian team since 2010

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, but we've heard that in the past too. And Queensland had the worst origin team ever and they come out and flog New South Wales. Stuart Broad's been involved in some good England sides and he's been involved in some pretty horrendous England sides. So yeah, he probably, sheep should keep his mouth shut.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Reckon they reckon they picked cones.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

No,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

no, I don't think he does. I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

not ready.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

out. I think watching a few shell games, I would really like to see Matt Renshaw open the, open the baton with

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Do you see him taking him as like a 12, 12 million type thing or

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

still,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

the experience?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

he'll be within the squad. and I just, I don't know when he, he come out that first game, he scored his 50 and then tried to replicate it every

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

he battered.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I was reading a really good article, and there's not enough batsmen in the Australian side at the moment that just wanna stay out there and bat Steve Smith wants to bat and he wants to bat all day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

you lose that now. Warner could, school runs quick, but he could also hold the stick and all day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

just comes with experience though. he never, it wasn't always like that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

but he turned his 10 into 20 and 20 into 50 more often than he didn't.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

And but Warner, he batted the same way across all three formats and I think Constance, and that's the worst thing with T 20 Cricket, it's rule and test cricket batsman.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Yep.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I'd agree with that.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Matt Renshaw, who he holds a bat well, and I mean, it's, it's a hard one. There's a lot of good. Bats, even to see, Patterson from New South Wales. He's been batting well. Whether he

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

up or not, they might look to somebody that's already been there. So, somebody said about, but he manus the bat and Cameron, Cameron Green's going to three. So, yeah, I don't know. There's a few options there, but yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Do you reckon the one, do you reckon the one wicked Wonder will get a, get a run on?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I'm too good for them.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

might get a run back in Cessna. I did

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I don't,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I can't even,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I knew any players.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I can't even hold a straight face and say, Hoover and run in the same sentence.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, I'll just, I, I don't run, I just, yeah, it's just boundary or nothing.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

of the, one of the blokes at work told me the other day that I'll be, it, it's a good walk down in my daughter's daycare. I'm like, man, I don't even walk to the letterbox. Like I drive past that to go in the door. and it's only just there, see what happens. But yeah, I think that's just about it for sport. I, with games, I've been smashing Battlefield Six since it came out and dead set. Battlefield is back where it was when Battlefield won come out. I can honestly say that the campaign's good. It's a good story, good to play through. I haven't finished the campaign yet. You can delete the, the campaign so that you can save up storage on your PlayStation. You're not taking up too much storage with it and still play the multiplayer. And the multiplayer is just the outstanding graphically. It's the outstanding. explosions, the progression on weapons and all of that stuff. It, it really is an unbelievable game. haven't played a cod in a while, but, black Ops seven comes out the on November 14 and it'll be just good to see how they compare.'cause Battlefield obviously doesn't get released every year like COD does. they've got that going for'em as well. But I think, people sat down and actually played it properly,'cause you get all the cod players in there trying to play it and run and gun and stuff. But if you go in and actually play the objective like you're supposed to in these sort of games, that a really, really enjoyable game. Especially if you've got a squad of boys that want to get on, or a squad of people that want to get on and have a few beers and a few drinks and have a bit of a laugh. It's a, it's a really good game and I would, I would really recommend it to be honest. Like I was, I was blown away by it, if I'm being honest. yeah, just need one of you boys to get either a PlayStation or the game. But, but why, why are you, why are you holding me out on Battlefield Six Act?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I'm not, I'm just broke. yeah, business owners don't have heaps of money like people say. But anyway,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

what, what do you find this way?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

nah, big game I'm looking forward to is Cricket 26. I've always, always enjoyed me cricket games, back to Shane Moore, 99. but they've released. this one will have a pro teams, have a manager mode. It's got a more in depth ashes series and career campaign amongst it. Like manager mode. You Yeah, it, I can't wait for that. Like you go right back. Scout Juniors coming through the systems and Yeah, it's just gonna be a more in depth game. It's, I think November 20 release date, so a couple weeks away,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I can't wait for that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I'm actually looking forward to the manager mode in it'cause we haven't adequate game with the manager mode. Are you worried about Big ants release with Rugby League 26

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, I, yeah, I still can't play rugby league'cause it's, I don't, I don't think it's a complete game and I don't, yeah, I, I am a little bit worried, but. It.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

It. It has got better.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

making cricket games for a while now. They've been, they've got that foundation there, so

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

They've already, yeah, they've got something to build off every year or every couple of years.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

they're

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

know that. know it's got all most of the major and competitions in it, but it doesn't have IPL in it because it'd be too expensive to purchase probably'cause it's so massive.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

the IPL rights are too expensive and apparently they've got most of the IPL teams, but I think it's the Register and Royals, don't have the rights to that one.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

don't quote me on that one, but I think that's the team.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

if it's anything like Rugby League 26, you'd be just able to make your own and put in there anyway.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, well they've still got the IPL, it's just called Indian T 20 or something like that. It's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

doesn't have the IPL name.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So, but yeah, that's a, that's a big game I'm looking forward to. it

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I, I kind of am too.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

after Project Motorsport, so yeah, I'm

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

probably gonna have to shut the business down for a couple of weeks to get those two games,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

some hours in pretty quick.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah, yeah. And whoever else work on buying a PlayStation for his wife.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

So,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yes, I will look at one. Can't promise anything, but yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

buying a PlayStation is expensive at the moment. at the Pro

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

it is.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I can't justify$1,200 for it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

no. You don't have to get a pro though,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No, you don't. But

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

you can just get a regular PlayStation.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

if you want something that's already got all the, the updated stuff and you want

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

and the storage and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

so the way that I see it, the best way for you to play games is probably to build your own pc, but that's even more expensive. Again, it's just the simplicity of I go plug in my PlayStation, I click on the game. I don't have to worry about graphics cards. I don't have to worry, I have to worry about storage. But that's something that I'm working on and I'll probably just end up getting a bigger hard drive for it or, and upgrading it a little bit.'cause I found out it's not that difficult to do, but yeah. Well, I'll, I'm happy for the simplicity of a PlayStation Nu so. Because once you get into that building PCs and stuff, you are talking thousands of dollars and it'll be an, I'd say, to be an addictive thing where no matter how good you make it, you'll always wanna make it better.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I, did look into it in the past, when I was right into my rust

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, you. Start at four grand and go up.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

yeah, yeah. If anyone wants to build us a PC and just sponsor us with it, that'd be great. But till then,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, send it, send it to me. I'll, I'll get the most use.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

is Hoover or blood blurry on yours?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah, has

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Wait, you know, you know when you do, you know when you're like watching the news and they have a dude's being suspected of a crime and they like blurry out their face. That's what he looks like right now. Hey, he looks like a criminal.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, it keeps coming up on my screen.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

comes up.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

not stable.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

up. Not focused as well, but hopefully we,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, mine's saying app, not focus, but mine's saying app, not stable.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

we keep the voice messages outta this anyway, so. Yeah. I'll, yeah. Oh, well we can move on to our predictions for the week anyway. So, predictions are, sponsored by Zach's Company, cross Hair Pipe and Excavations. Can you tell us a little bit about your company, Zach, where to find you and stuff?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Facebook. that's the best, best place to, to find me. yeah, based in Northwest New South Wales. I'm a excavation company, so do civil works, stormwater, sewer mains, water mains, Weldon. but yeah, earthworks, a few other bits and pieces.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah, you go over onto the Facebook page too, Zach's putting photos up for jobs that he's done and stuff like that. It looks really good. I know one of our mates, he dug out his driveway and your brother helped concrete and it come up really, really good, to be honest. So, yeah, no, it's, it's worth checking out, but our cross air predictions for this week. Who wants to start, Zach?

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I did have a, a win last week with my couple of predictions, so yeah, I guess guess I can start. I'm gonna start with the NFL, new Tennessee Titans, the Letting the Coach go, and the last couple of days I'm gonna gonna take the Patriots to beat them, and back to the Cricket England to beat New Zealand on Saturday. it's only a one day, but to, to build up to that Ashes series here in Australia. So yeah, I think they'll be, they'll be at to start winning some games and yeah, really, build up. Ashes are only a month away now, so.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. Hoover.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I've got an NFL game as well. I've got Miami Dolphins to beat the Cleveland Browns and my other one is a NASCAR one. We've gone, Cole Larson to win the NASCAR Cup series Championship.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

For this week. So you know a

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yes. Sad day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

a little bit about Kyle Larson from, Speedway.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah. Yeah. He's a Speedway and a Tar C Well, it's all circuit track really for him, but yeah, Speedway and Dirt.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. And a lot of those races do different races. I know Mo's racing in some 12 year other thing with willpower from the Indy cars. So this weekend, so yeah. my predictions for this week, I've got Samoa to beat New Zealand. New Zealand are the favorites, but I I think Samara will get up over'em. I think they've got a better team. We've got more going for'em and more, more players form in that team to be honest. got foreign at half back and Brian and bit iffy on the halves where TGI and Lu I are, you know, I think they're a little bit more formable halves pairing to be honest. and then I've got the Jets to win the F three derby and beat the Mariners this week in the first game in the A-League. Yeah. And that's our predictions for this fight. we'll put that on and hopefully we get a win this week. So, yeah. you boys got anything else?

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

You just gotta remember, but when we finish to press, stop and save

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I don't have to push. Save it. Guess send as soon as I push stop

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

so

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

We've seen in the past, me and Hoover have been saying sees later, but you, you tend to cut that out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I don't cut it out. It doesn't come through for some reason.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

last night you just went all out and just cut me and Hoover out completely. We've had

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I didn't go. Hoover was there. Hoover was

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

that, that, that makes sense.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

send you, I'll send

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

That makes sense.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Like

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I'll send you the episode of what happened. I don't,

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Yeah, that makes sense.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

I didn't cut yours out.

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

onto

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

If I was cutting yours out, I would've posted it and I wouldn't be re-recording would I? Straight after work.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

You know what? We needed it. We just, we just need to throw it like in between everything

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

All.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

and then he just has to move it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Oh, well, that's it. That's it for me anyway, so I will, I'll see you as next week. What do you reckon,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

Well, yeah, that, that's about it. So I guess it's from me.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

See you later.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

ed? Gain over here. Don't upset. You've been watching that

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

What,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

gain thing.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Oh,

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

no. Watch it. That is some messed up shit, all right. Let's buy from us anyway. Oh, no.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

you are kidding me.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

You took a screenshot thing again. Fuck. I just had a fucking heart attack.

squadcaster-6di2_1_10-15-2025_192027:

I looked it up and I just going, here we go. He hasn't pressed record and he's just pressing record now

zach-host190_1_10-15-2025_192027:

the, I wanted the screenshot of Hoover all blurred out so we can put it on the Facebook page. Crime

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All right.

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the man.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_10-15-2025_192028:

Yeah. All right. I'll stop it

Speaker 2:

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