Episode 10. 360 won`t go away,

Episode 10 description:

Hoover, Jason, and Zach are back with a stacked episode. We kick off with NRL vs Rugby 360—what each gets right (and wrong)—then slide into some EPL talk as Hoover finally commits to a new club. There’s more Battlefield 6 buzz, and Jason tries Satisfactory on PS5 after a listener recommendation to see if factory life is for him. We wrap with our weekly predictions—and a twist: there’s a punishment for this week’s loser.

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Transcript

Speaker 4 0:02

Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 0:11

welcome to episode 10 of the Incoherent Podcast. Who, Zach, did you realize it's been 10 weeks since we started doing this,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 0:21

No, I didn't realize it's been 10 weeks. It doesn't feel that long.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 0:24

Well, we have missed a couple. I was away for a couple. You didn't start at the start.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 0:30

and I've been here for all 11 episodes.'cause we had the bonus NRL Grand final episode as well. So yeah, I've done 11 straight. So Achievement unlocked already

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 0:42

do you want a metal or a chest to pin that on?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 0:45

both.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 0:46

You can only have won.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 0:48

Mm. Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 0:50

Oh look, you might as well take the medal because you're never gonna win the interior cop.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 0:54

Oh, I'm gonna win it. We're sitting there having a look today. We've got. Few things going on, so trying to make things a little bit better. So we've always been up to this week. Other than work,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:08

Work. I work six days a week, mate.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 1:11

I don't,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:12

You

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:12

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:13

did work six days a fortnight.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:15

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 1:16

no, I do, I do. 10 days a fortnight. This fortnight.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:19

you don't because you have sickies.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 1:22

Oh yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:25

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 1:25

I didn't, I had to take my wife to hospital'cause she might've been having a stroke. but luckily enough she didn't. But it was long wait at John Hunter Hospital for six hours with two kids. What else? He has been up to just watch any sport getting into any games.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:44

Didn't get much sporting this week. Caught the highlights of the ashes and a few A-League games and a few other bits and pieces, but yeah, pretty full on weekends. lots of beers were drunk.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 1:58

yes. There was a few beers drunk on the weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 2:01

Oh, I, I didn't bother getting up for the ashes and ended up being three nil anyway, so I didn't even watch the highlights to be honest.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 2:09

I don't even know it was on. I thought it was on next week.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 2:11

you stand by Kevy picking the same squad, or do you think those guys that went over there should have been given a chance to play?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 2:21

I think the, the emus as they call'em, I think they should have, been given a chance to be fair, they've gone over there, they've done the four weeks over there, so at least give them a chance to play. The job was already done, but at the same time, it's pretty tough for those incumbent players to give up their test jersey. you only get to play so many tests in your career. So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 2:44

Yeah, but you also, those other players have left their families behind, have gone over there. They, yeah, I think earned the chance to have a crack and have been given it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:01

I can see the point of both sides of the coin, it's pretty tough to give up your jersey and. I can also say they've been over there. They probably should have been given an opportunity, but they're there to cover injuries and stuff. And there was only really, Yo's injury was the only one really. So, they got lucky through all of that and went through pretty easily. Really?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 3:23

I don't think clearly done enough to keep number seven,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:26

Uh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 3:28

nah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:28

I didn't watch this week's game, but yeah. What do you reckon, Uber?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 3:33

I didn't know it was on, yeah, I did, I did watch the New Zealand, SAMO game, but that was a really good

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:40

Yeah. I watched a bit of that before. I go and do something. I can't remember what it was, but it cut the game short, so.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 3:47

I thought Samo was gonna have New Zealand there at one stage.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:50

Yeah, they were up, what was it, 14, six at half time.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 3:55

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 3:56

They put in the effort and New Zealand just come back through too strong and ran away with it in the end. Samoa didn't score any points in the second half and let a lot in, so.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:06

No, they did score in the second half, late. In the second half I think it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 4:09

Oh, did they? I thought it was still four. I thought it was still 14. Well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:14

See you happy Dbags. Number seven. For the nights,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 4:18

yep,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:19

you

_1_11-11-2025_203920 4:20

he can carry that form.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:21

you think he's done enough in those test matches to to warrant being given the keys at the night

_1_11-11-2025_203920 4:29

Yep. I think he can. He, he needs the forwards to go forward, but give him time. But I think, I think he's a good player. I think people just, you know, blame him for a shitty situation in a team that was designed for Moses. I don't think he's a bad player. I think people drum up how bad he is, to be honest.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:49

I think he's, he's not a bad player, but I just, I personally think he's a better six. But

_1_11-11-2025_203920 4:57

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 4:57

that Parramatta team was designed for Moses. Yes. But Ford Pack was there to lay a platform, and Brian, I don't think Brian was good enough to, to play off the back of that.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 5:11

he, he controlled the New Zealand team. he can take control when you need still and put his little bid into it. he was the difference in those test matches. All three of'em that he played,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 5:20

Yeah, for

_1_11-11-2025_203920 5:20

that's why they've got him as a talking point of being Golden Boot., He played really well in all those games. he was the standout and that's what he needs to be at the nights. He needs to be a standout from week to week. That'll take pressure on off Ponga and hopefully that unlocks some attack. And yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 5:39

he's there, if he's there,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 5:41

he'll be,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 5:42

the rumors are, he's had talks with the warriors manager, owner and I've seen there earlier. He's also been spotted with of the chief from the, rugby 360. with them,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 5:57

yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 5:57

was being spotted with dinner with him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 6:00

Yeah. Look, ever since Pa Ka and Simon with the ninth, it's always been talked that he is gonna leave. And it doesn't actually bother me if he leaves or he doesn't leave.'cause we've got coverage there and it probably makes it headache a little bit easier. But until he leaves, he is still there. He is still on the thing, so he's still on the roster. So if he leaves, he leaves. If he doesn't, he doesn't.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 6:27

when, when I seen that he was talking to the Warrior's boss, I sat there and I thought, do the Warriors really need him? And then I actually thought he probably wouldn't be a bad fit in that Warriors team. we are losing players. two of us are Shaq, he's, he's gonna stay there as long as he can, but 360 is coming up, so he is probably gonna go to

_1_11-11-2025_203920 6:48

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 6:49

I dunno, I don't, I don't mind tool

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 6:52

fullback. He's, he is a really good player. I, I just think he's too small. Too small for fullback.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 6:58

Nah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 6:59

The one of the best fullbacks ever to play the games in Mango and look how big he was.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 7:05

Yeah. But he's, he hasn't got the jump. He can't jump.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 7:10

he'll grow, with more experience in the NRL, he'll evolve and he'll make that, that full box fullback spot. He's,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 7:19

You got Ben Barber, Preston Campbell.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 7:21

yeah, there's been a lot of fullbacks that are,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 7:24

Even Jay Gray's not that tall.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 7:26

If he, if he gets a little bit more solid, works on that hip training and, and really get through the tackles with his hips, Tommy Dens and the Campbells and I don't think two picky iss that bad of a player. And I think, yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 7:43

He's a good player and he'll, he's got the footwork and the ability to be able to play that position anyway. It doesn't matter about his size. Carmichael Hunt wasn't that big. He just returned it a front rower when he first started. Remember you can still have a good player at fullback even doesn't matter on the size or.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 8:00

Well, the two fallbacks that the Warriors normally run there, they, they're the mood gainers. Week in, week out. Anyway, box that and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 8:09

You can still, you've still got the wingers there, they've still got big sized wingers that they can throw the ball to. You don't have to take it back all the time. only when he has to and if he can join into that back line and ball play a little bit and create space for himself and, any, anything can happen. I don't know, paying has, has been talking about gonna 360 PGA's gonna 360, all these players are gonna 360, but nobody's made it anything official yet. And we won't know about it. But how do we know that part of that's not driving up the price with the NRL to come in and go, hang on, you stay here, we'll give you the money that you want you can stay in our game.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 8:46

well has still got contracts left,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 8:49

Yeah, he, he's on the verge of the 10 year bin. Soga, PPEN, Hausen. If he goes, he won't because he got released. So he does, he got released from his contract to, before he is even done anything. So whether he has a 12 months off or whatever, and then signs with 360, he won't have a 10 year bin. If they're off contract, they're not getting a 10 year band. It's only if they're still, if they breaking contracts to go.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 9:14

I don't think has, will stay. I think I really think he'll go, he be a big name in that 360.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 9:25

Yeah, well$3 million is nothing to sneeze at. And to be quite honest, if you was asked to go and do your job for three times the amount that you're already making to do pretty much the same thing, you are not gonna turn it down

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 9:40

that's the thing. That's what you gotta remember.$3 million a season

_1_11-11-2025_203920 9:44

Instead of a meal or season.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 9:46

That's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 9:47

Yeah. the most, the most that an NRL Club can offer.'cause there was talks about the Bears offering paying HU 2 million a season, but the generally with a salary cap, the way that it is, the most that they can offer a player is about 1.5 million without taking up too much of the cap on one player.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:09

Yeah, but that, yeah, outta that$3 million soothing, there's endorsement deals and everything on top,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 10:16

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:17

so

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:18

that's, that's 3 million tax free.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:20

yeah. And then you throw in some sponsorships or you'll get one buddy one. Freaking person from over there, he'll particularly wanna sponsor him. And yeah, I don't know. a lot of money to turn down

_1_11-11-2025_203920 10:37

It is and that's why. That's why the problem is,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:40

that's the thing, a lot, a lot of the radio and all that has been saying, gotta think of his family'cause he looks after all of his brothers and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 10:48

yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:48

with his mum being in jail and all that. So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 10:51

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:51

he has got a lotof responsibility. But 3 million seasonI'd go over there and play 3 million a season to get smashed.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 10:58

But what, interested in what's gonna happen with all these players that are thinking about going and their loyalties to their international teams. is there a Samoan Rugby Union team?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 11:12

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there is.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 11:14

Yeah. There would be.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 11:15

I'm pretty sure there is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 11:16

they're running the risk of signing and missing out on that Rugby League World Cup next year.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 11:24

Yeah. But there's a Rugby Union World Cup next year

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 11:27

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 11:27

and someone paying has, who can play for Samoa if Samoa have qualified.'cause I think there's 20 teams or something in their World Cup where there's only 10 in ours. is the World Cup really in Rugby League? Is it really a draw card at all? To be fair, I don't think it's big enough a draw card except for those people that are rugby league through and through a Cherry Evans orpeople that wouldn't even consider going to another sport that just wanna play rugby league. That probably their big thing. But we'll always lose a lot of players that have come from Rugby Union with the draw of that rugby union thing.'cause it's, it's more international than what rugby league is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 12:05

Yeah, there is a rugby union team. It's Samoan team.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 12:09

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 12:10

So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 12:11

The Wallabies will be in him from playing for the Wallabies because that's what they've said, that they won't take players that join in the international and I can't see'em changing it just'cause Payne Huss swaps over. But he can go and play for Samoa.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 12:28

but I don't agree with that. they should be able to play.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 12:32

They're allowed to, 360 has said, they'll be released for their international obligations and all that stuff. It's the Rugby Australia, rugby, New Zealand, England, and all of that that have, they're the ones that have put the restrictions saying they can't play for their country because they don't wanna lose players from super rugby.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 12:51

Remember Liv Golf done that sorry. PGA, done that about Liv Golf. And then look at it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 12:56

Yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 12:57

'Cause the rugby and the Rugby 360

_1_11-11-2025_203920 13:00

yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 13:00

are the exact same as that. And now PGA turned around and now Liv Golf people are playing both.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 13:06

Well, that's, that's what the thing is. They, they made the statement that they were gonna be banned from playing in the PGA, and then when the players went, well, fuck you. Anyway, it, they changed their tone on it. And then they tried to combine and they tried to do all of this stuff. it might just work out because 360 starts pretty much after the NRL season. It might work out that players will go over, play 360 for a couple of games and then come back, play rugby league through the year.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 13:33

360. It starts in October. I'm pretty sure it starts.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 13:36

that's what I mean. There'll be players coming off contract that'll go play a season in 360 and then come back and play rugby league just to make a bit of money. Okay.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 13:45

I don't think they'd be allowed, would they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 13:46

Well, if they come off contract at the end of next year and they're a free agent, there's nothing stopping'em from going and playing the three months, four months of 360 and then coming back to rugby league because.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 13:59

you saying are they only seasoned contracts? Are they all Will, will they be like the NRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 14:03

There'd probably be multi-year ones, but they'll probably be able to get away with playing, paying it with, signing a one year contract. It's just like when Ana come back from Japanese rugby and went straight into the Canberra team midway through the season.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 14:16

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 14:17

So his contract finished in Japanese rugby. Just like when Sonny Bill come back, he had to wait for his contract to end in Japanese rugby, and then he came back and played for the roosters when it ended.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 14:28

That's the thing. if PO Hus does sign with him, I think that might open the floodgates because

_1_11-11-2025_203920 14:36

It could,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 14:37

he is, he is pro, yeah. He's the number one prop in the NRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 14:41

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 14:42

Well, that's.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 14:43

if he leaves is, is the CEO really gonna turn around and say, no, you are gone for 10 years now? Or is he gonna turn around and say, oh, come on, let's work together with this. it's up in the air. No one knows until it actually happens and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 14:58

the NRL will be having meetings with Payne Hus and trying to keep him in the game.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 15:04

Oh, they'll be doing everything they can at

_1_11-11-2025_203920 15:06

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 15:06

the moment.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 15:07

But that's why they had that war chest a couple of years ago. And the thing is, people complain about third parties and all of that'cause the players get paid more and it's outside the cap. And it's not fair because some clubs get higher, third parties than what other clubs do and all that. The whole third party thing was put there when French rugby was chasing Rugby league players years ago. That's why that got put in place. So they could get unlimited potential of earning. But you've also got the 360 side of things is that they can say that they live. In The Bahamas and get it all tax free. They don't have to pay tax in it. They get that full 303 million, it.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 15:46

I think that's what it is. Australian. I think the contract is in American Dollar and it only works out two point something million, but because he's, because he can get it as an Australian side. Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 15:59

Yeah. Well it's still gonna be 3 million Australian.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 16:02

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 16:03

with the exchange rate and that, but I don't think we need to worry. We've had other codes come and pinch players before and done all this stuff. we lost Lau, we lost Carmichael Hunt, Matt Rogers, Wendell Sailor, all these players have gone. There's just been other players that come through and fill that gap. It's an opportunity for other players that come through that do wanna play our sport. And sometimes in sport, that's what you've got. They go and play. They go do one thing to springboard their career so they can do the thing they actually want to do. the same with NFL, you go and get drafted and then there's players that got drafted in the NNFL and they didn't wanna go play for their teams, but they were also good at BA baseball and got drafted in baseball as well. And then threaten that, oh, well if you don't let me pick the team I want to go to, I'll go play baseball. And then they end up coming to the table, to get that player to come and play. it's just one of those things that it'll work itself out and we'll get a better picture of it once players start signing and what's happening. And it's happened before when the Super League. Was on for Rugby league. They also had the same thing, it was a world rugby series, which is exactly the same as what 360 is for rugby union that a heap of rugby union players signed up for. And they didn't end up doing it at all. it didn't end up going ahead or coming to fruition. It's just because it's got this sort money behind it that it's more than likely to happen,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 17:30

Yeah. Well, I think it's very interesting anyway, on who will go and who will stay, who's gonna be tempted by the money. But yeah, it, what would you do? had the chance, take the

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 17:43

Yeah. Take the money. Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 17:45

think it'd be because, because of the person that I am, rugby league's always been everything to me. So if I'd done everything, played, origin, monogram, final, done, everything that Hass has done, yeah, I'd probably take the money because I've already done everything I can in rugby league. But that's, that's what I'm saying. I'm, rugby league through and through, I'm not, I'm not gonna put my hand up and go and do that, the money or not. But in saying that, I've never, I've never been offered that amount of money.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 18:15

Brisbane, I think it was the CEOs coming out and want, want him to really think about the legacy he could leave

_1_11-11-2025_203920 18:23

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 18:24

and, and not just within the NRL, but just his legacy that he'll leave at Brisbane.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 18:30

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 18:31

Right.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 18:31

that's the exact same argument that PGA had with the lib players.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 18:35

So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 18:35

Liv's what players went and took the money and now a lot of them are looking to go back to the PGA and not renewing with, with Liv.'cause they've already made their money, endorsed it done everything with it and they can go back to the PGA and go back to the way things were. PGA's probably been weakened in the result of that.'cause all the good players are playing for Liv. All the players that you wanna watch, your Cam Smiths, your the Chabo and all that, they're all playing in Liv Golf.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 19:03

yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 19:04

And I like watching the PGA, I'll sit there and watch it, but.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 19:08

yeah, I, I can flick backwards and forwards the Gulf. It's neither here nor there, like. Some Ivy gets to a championship hole, yeah, Augusta's probably a bit different. I can watch that. on a little bit of a side note, the NRL draw gets released in the next week. Who do you reckon misses Magic round. we know all the teams that have been announced for Vegas and whatnot. And who misses magic round this year?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 19:38

Well, it won't be any Queensland teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 19:41

Does it go the wooden spoons?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 19:44

No, that's not how they do it.'cause the Knights missed out on Magic Round a couple of years ago. They just rotate it through. I think the Bulldogs have missed out on it. They'll just, they'll just find a team and they miss out.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 19:55

drag dragons were lost on, weren't they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 19:57

Yeah. I think the dragons were last time. Yeah. Yeah. So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:01

I know,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:02

the Tigers.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:03

I know the Tigers missed it a couple year ago, but yeah, little side. Bet

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:09

No,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:09

gonna The Raiders.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:10

I reckon the Raiders will be there. The Raiders are pretty exciting. They've just signed, Kobe Black from the Broncos. He jumped ship after they signed peasant. So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:19

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:19

interesting as see how that goes.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:21

that was always gonna happen. He was told he was the next half back

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:26

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:27

they were never gonna keep him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:29

no, no. Well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:30

yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:31

they picked up a pretty promise and mine Inez with some first grade experience, so you can't really, and Duffy,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:38

Oh, well, Duffy only signed the one you contract. He's up for release now.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:43

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:44

He's a free agent. So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:46

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:47

I don't know. I just think Raiders. It's, yeah. Winter to Vegas, you're

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:53

Won't, they won't tap Panthers out. No way.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 20:56

Well, somebody's gotta miss out. It

_1_11-11-2025_203920 20:57

Yeah. someone's got, someone's gonna miss out.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:00

and they're

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:01

We'll see.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:02

they're just gonna keep rotating right through to the whole draw. So it matter whether it's Pampers next

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:07

the Broncos will never miss out.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:10

they

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:10

There's no way they could hold it at Suncorp and then the Bronco's not playing it.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:14

but it doesn't matter because

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:16

Yeah, I know,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:16

it's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:17

that's only fair. Yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:18

Well, well then the Dolphins can't miss out.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:21

that's what I just said. It won't be any Queensland teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:23

But it, it's not a Broncos home game. The Broncos have not had a home game at

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:29

No, they're not allowed to.'cause they're not allowed to make money off it. That's, that's the whole point of it. I think they're looking at moving it around anyway.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:37

it's still the home ground advantage, whether they're in the away shed or not.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:41

Yeah, I understand that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 21:44

there, there's no reason why they can't be the team that misses out and then they don't make no money off it. So, but yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 21:51

I think magic round should be moved around. You should have it in Brisbane. Have it in Townsville, Have it. Have it in Auckland. Have it in Newcastle, Perth.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:01

they did used to do it in Auckland.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:03

That was the nines.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:05

They'd done magic round over there, didn't

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:06

No, no, not magic round. They only had the nines over there and they wanted to try and move that around as well. And then it got canned.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:14

they should take magic round over there and leave the state of origin right here in Australia.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:19

you could do that too. they can't have magic round in Vegas. Open the season.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:24

too, too many teams going over there. Too much,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:27

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:27

too much shit could go wrong.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:29

would be an absolute political nightmare.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:33

they're looking at doing global round anyway, so

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:36

Yeah, I don't,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:38

that,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:38

don't see that going ahead.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:39

that separates and puts teams in all different parts of the world. Imagine taking every single player to Vegas,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:48

tell'em to behave. It'll be right.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:50

the the cheese and back together the strip.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:55

The storm played in Vegas yet

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:57

No.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 22:58

Maybe a year after

_1_11-11-2025_203920 22:59

the rabbit have though.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:01

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 23:02

I really wanted to see a cheese monster game against each other in Vegas.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:06

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:06

monster's gotta hang around. I do that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:09

not see Vegas. Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 23:11

What did you, what did you think about the new proposed kickoff rule with the scoring team kicks off?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:18

What a load of shit.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 23:19

an NFL rule.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:20

it

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:21

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:22

I think it could potentially bring scorelines down a little bit.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 23:28

Well, they did that in the Super League in 97. They had it the other way around, and apparently people reckon there'll still blowouts, so

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:36

It's all gonna come down to ball control. if you

_1_11-11-2025_203920 23:39

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:40

flogged because you keep dropping the ball in, you earn 20, you're gonna get flogged. But

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:46

That's right because they're gonna kick the ball off to you. They, they're on a high just score on a go, a try.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:52

yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 23:53

they race down, put you on your 10 or ride you back into the in goals. They get the ball back, they score again. Oh, righto. Let's kick it again to ya. Let's do the same again.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:02

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:02

I, I think it's gonna bring the short kickoff right into play. There's

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:08

I fucking cannot stand the short kickoff and short dropouts.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:13

but I,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:14

It is a waste.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:16

I think it'll,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:17

Do you know? Do you know why they do it though?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:20

but it'll push it in that direction, which will a lot of concussions On kickoffs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:25

Yeah. I think that's what their idea behind it is, is to try and make it so that people are kicking short

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:31

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:31

that, for the concussion reason.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:33

Teams will wanna win the ball back, so they'll go short

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:37

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:38

and.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:38

Let's tackle football, not fucking touch football. that's what it's gonna end up in a couple years where you're not gonna be able to tackle anyone with all these stupid rules that they're bringing in.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:48

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 24:49

I know, I know you got, I know you're gonna look after player welfare and all that, but that's they said there a year or so ago. Let's get rid of the kickoff altogether.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 24:58

Yeah. Well that, that thing that happened to Katua the other day, it's a pretty scary thing. And the NRL have interviewed everyone to see what went on, what the result of it is, and now they just want to speak to Katua once he's all better and stuff.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 25:14

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 25:15

it's a scary thing, that concussion thing.'cause you see all these older players that they're mentally fucked because of head knocks and shit.'cause it wasn't looked after properly,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 25:24

Tell me the difference is between Union and Rugby League, though, because we don't hear about all these concussions in Union.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 25:31

No, they, they do, they have, they have concussion rules. That's why when I watched it the other day, he got 10 in the bin because he had a head knock because he went into the tackle wrong and caused it himself, basically.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 25:44

yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 25:45

that's why

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 25:46

It's not spoken about. We don't hear about it day in, day out. we hear about it in NRL

_1_11-11-2025_203920 25:52

Well, to be perfectly honest, you don't hear fucking anything about rugby union other than they want their league players back.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 25:58

and Australia really suck

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:01

Oh. I wouldn't say that they really suck, but,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:04

wall of Wallabies. were in a little bit of a high there a couple of months ago, and they're right back down in the cellar.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:13

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:14

They'll get beat again this weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:16

Yeah. But.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:17

Do they play this weekend island, isn't it?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:19

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:20

Yeah, I'll probably all are pretty good.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:23

Yeah, that's right. That's what I probably will do.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:26

So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:26

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 26:27

I just,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 26:28

but to answer your thing, ho, the reason why they do the short dropouts all the time is because it's easier for teams to defend on their line if they, if they're given back possession, there's a chance you can get the possession. And also your team's not running 45 meters, 50 meters down the field and tying, it's to keep your own fatigue. That's why they do the short kickoffs.'cause the end result is a better payout if they get the ball back or if they don't get the ball back that, there's more chance of a mistake and stuff That's why they do it all the time.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:03

do you go with a kickoff the union though? have that, the initial kickoff, whatever, off the tee, you can kick it long or short. You make your mind up

_1_11-11-2025_203920 27:13

Uh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:14

after points you go to a drop kick.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 27:18

yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:19

'cause then it will, will bring that short drop. That short kick off.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 27:26

well in rugby union, the reason that they go short is because it's all about territory. So,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:32

right

_1_11-11-2025_203920 27:33

it's where rugby league, you want to try and put pressure on the opposition in their half and pin'em down in their half, rugby union, it's a lot easier to get outta your own half'cause you can kick the ball out inside the 22. You can kick it out on the full and get a line out, down the, down the,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:51

Pete. You can do it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 27:52

where you are, a chance to getting the ball back anyway. Hey, the

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 27:55

it in rugby league too. And I'm actually quite surprised I haven't seen someone smart enough to pick up on it yet. Off a kickoff? Yes. Straight off a kickoff. You kick off long you'll get a smart five, eight or half back that receives the ball and that defensive line, that fullback's coming with him. With that line, you just look up and go, bang 2040.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 28:21

if you fuck it up, you don't wanna lose possession.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 28:24

The good old Ohio Mary.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 28:25

Well, we haven't seen it. There's been plenty of times where teams could have used it,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 28:32

yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 28:32

what a union does. Union does that. Sometimes

_1_11-11-2025_203920 28:36

yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 28:36

the ball kicks, the ball gets, get the ball kicked to him. Then they go for field advantage.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 28:41

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 28:42

Uh, you, you take I think it was a Knights Cowboys game this year, or it might've been the final last year. Cowboys scored late to take the lead. When the knights received it, they could've done it, got back into the 40, brings two point field golf straight in the plate.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 28:58

To be fair, I don't think Knights have anybody that could kick from 40 meters.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 29:03

Probably not while PGA's out, but, what I mean though, you 2040 off the kickoff. Goes out on the 30, you play the ball, bang 40 meter field goal, straight off the bat, tie the game up, or win the game.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 29:18

Yeah. Well, daily, cherry Evans knows that you can, rather than taking a tap of the 20, you can just kick it out and you get the ball back where it goes out. He's the only one that does that every now and then, and he's the only one that they cover on to do it. But there'd be just one of those tactic, the coaches. The coaches look at these things and it all comes down to risk. they try to minimize risk and that's what they do. That's why Adam O'Brien had the Knights not attacking the ball and stuff like that was because it was too high risk that they'd cause a. Or give a penalty to get down the other thing. And it's all about consistency and completions and stuff like that. That's what he was really big on. I don't agree with it. Yeah. Well I don't agree with it'cause I think that you still need to challenge for the ball, but

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 30:06

Anyway, I'm gonna the Cowboys and we're gonna put this play in motion. I might get a gig as a coach up there.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 30:16

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 30:16

Kick, kick, return coach.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 30:18

So if he is, um,'cause as everyone I know Matty Johns has bought a stake in the Gold Coast. Titans, have views been following it at all or just kind of, I.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 30:30

Yeah. Oh look, I've seen it. I haven't really looked too far into it.'cause him and Gordon have both bought stakes into it, haven't they?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 30:39

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Gordon was already a, a representative for the Titans or whatever it is. He already had a spot on the Titans and he's convinced Matt to, or the board's convinced Matt to buy a stake in it. So he is got a small part of it, but he involvement is, he sees potential on the Gold Coast in the juniors and he wants to try and convince the juniors to try and stay and play for the Gold Coast and wanna play for the Titans, which is a very mirrored thing to what Gus did at Penrith, wanting those players to stay and play for the Panthers and trying to build through the junior system. And I think it's a very, very smart play for the Titans to be one looking into juniors and trying to make them. Wanna play for him like that.'cause Payne Huss was from the Central Coast catchment area. He's from New South Wales, but in the catchment area, I played juniors in the Titans area. So they lost players Payne Huss and all that to the Broncos. So they're just trying to, build their brand But I think it's a smart way to go about it rather than, throwing$2 million at this player and that player and hope it works out they've done in the past with Jared Hayne, Idris, Tino Tino's worked out well'cause Tino's a really good player and he plays his Hardy out every week. But obviously he's had enough of that as well. You need more players around them. Those sort of players that want to be there and are passionate about playing for the Titans, I suppose. And I think it's a good way to go and a good way to look at it, to be honest.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 32:12

Yeah, there's no point being the only player on the team putting your right part on the line there every game and no one else wanting to go with you. I think that's why Tino's had enough of it. Like

_1_11-11-2025_203920 32:23

Yeah, but some of that could come down to coaching and it's, there's no solid thing for it. Like when do you know that it's the coach that's the problem. And when do you know that it's the players that are the problem?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 32:34

the thing is the coach ain't the one out on the field making the, dropping the ball or giving the penalties away and all that. Yeah, he coaches them, but.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 32:44

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 32:44

the, that's the first thing they look at. They look at the coach and they go, right, let's sack the coach. The, the nights have lost games in a row. Let's get rid of the coach. It's not the coach that's doing the wrong on the field.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 32:57

No.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 32:58

he's trained them every day during the week and they've done exactly what he is told'em to do. It's just what happens on game day

_1_11-11-2025_203920 33:07

Yeah. And that's just, that's just part of sport in general. And the way that it goes, it's the, it's a deadly thing to, it'd be the worst thing being a coach or something like that. And you come up with a thing, you see progress, you see everything growing, but it hasn't quite transformed into the field, And then your a is on the line because this thing that you are trying to work at. And then the worst thing you can do is probably change your formula on the run to try and, change things.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 33:33

Well, that's thing, you look at the blues team, right? They always sack the cage, change the cage. Those blues players are the best players out of each of those teams, each team they've come

_1_11-11-2025_203920 33:42

yeah. I think at that level, it comes down to game plans and stuff like that. And also motivation, because I can't ignore. How much better of a team they were with magic charge compared to low they were, they'll lock apples and oranges this year compared to last year,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 33:56

What's the, what's the rumor with magic at the moment, actually?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 33:59

England are chasing you?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 34:00

that mean he has to leave Broncos.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 34:03

No, not if, the only reason that Australia chooses a standalone coach and the blues and that choose a coach that doesn't have an NRL team is because the nr, the Australian Rugby League decided that a few years ago. I remember Wayne Bennett was Coach of England and he was still coaching the OSE and orphans. Yeah, it's the same thing. They, they, they're happy for, for him to do it and have his NRL contract as well.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 34:30

That that'll ultimately come down under the club though. If Brisbane want him to just concentrate on Brisbane, especially with next year being a World Cup year,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 34:39

Yeah. But at the same time, I don't think Brisbane are gonna be wanting to get rid of Mag at this point. he's probably, he's probably,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 34:47

get

_1_11-11-2025_203920 34:48

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 34:48

but they're, they might want him to concentrate on Brisbane only, not worrying about England.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 34:54

Yeah. it, it'll come down to Mag, really

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 34:57

look, I, I think Brisbane are, are gonna be in a bit of trouble. Next season. Really I, I think I read there earlier this week that they reckon Reynolds is in doubt at all next season.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:11

yeah, you got pea

_1_11-11-2025_203920 35:12

me and,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:13

the following year, but you've still got man play six. Hunter will just go to seven and

_1_11-11-2025_203920 35:20

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:20

still got

_1_11-11-2025_203920 35:21

No.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:21

You've still got Billy Walters. Corey Pake signed on for next year. So he'll just start at nine. I don't think they'll be that far away. Alright. And you only need Reynolds, even if he's not a hundred percent fit. You play Reynolds at 14. You get into a tight game, throw him out there for the last 20 minutes just to manage that game. Get Brisbane over the line.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:47

Yeah, I suppose.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 35:48

And a lot of those games that they won last year was without Reynolds as well,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 35:52

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 35:53

so they're not, they've got enough halves and that and experience in the halves. It'll be all about, this season will be just all about bringing Pez through to take over and take control. I think,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:03

well he won't be coming through because he'll be a parramatter.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:06

oh, sorry. Yeah,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:08

still got another season.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:10

So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:10

Forgot about that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:11

yeah. But they've still got, yeah, they've got enough. Billy Walters could potentially go to seven when he's fit. Yeah, if, I don't know whether that Blake Moser can play six or seven. But is

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:28

I think he's just a hooker,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:29

roll?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:30

I think. Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:32

But they, they might very well sign on Tom Duffy again to, as a backup for Reynolds for next year. So if Reynolds goes down, they haven't, he out and out half so he can still sign him cheap.'cause he's only played three or four first grade games. So,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:52

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 36:53

but yeah, especially.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 36:55

I, I still think Brisbane are around that top four again next year. It just might

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 37:00

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 37:00

on has, if has signs for 360 and doesn't play next year. I think that's gonna hurt him a lot because he's a big loss in that middle and, they'll struggle for go forward without him. I think,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 37:14

that's the thing. If, if he turns around and says, right, I'm going to 360, say what's today? Tuesday. if he turns around and says right on 360 and signs contract on Thursday, is that him done for next season? He can't play in next season at all.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 37:28

tech

_1_11-11-2025_203920 37:29

I can't see him allowing him to play if they wanna be in players for 10 years for signing the contract to start with.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 37:34

if it technically his contract doesn't start till November next year when R 360 starts.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 37:41

Yeah, no, I understand that. But it'd be a bit hypocritical to let him play out his season then go.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 37:46

Well, I was talking with James about that earlier if he is going, he will have something in that new contract to state that nothing is to be released. he can play one last season or he releases it and he goes to Japanese rugby, gets

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:05

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:06

it

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:06

gets

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:07

ready.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:07

bit of experience, into that 360 inaugural season, kills it. three or four years over there, makes 15 mil retires back in Samoa.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:19

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:20

Nah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:20

He won't go to Samoa.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:22

Go back to wood. Go back to Woodbury where he grew up.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:25

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:26

go go and buy the Woodbury field and upgrade.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:30

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 38:31

You know, he would have clauses. Knowing that the profile he is got within the NRL, he wouldn't want to jeopardize that. If 360 happened to not go ahead or something happens, he doesn't wanna run the risk of losing his contract. He comes out during the season next year and says, I'm going, that's a different story.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 38:54

So he is, gonna find out who's gonna be broadcasting 360 and actually watch the first week.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:01

I, I'm gonna watch it.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:03

I reckon if we start saving now and we just jump on a plane, we go over there, open a game November next year.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 39:10

If we can start getting our bets right, instead of getting them wrong, we might be there fucking first class, but at the moment, we're gonna have to work. When we get over there, show some skin.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:19

well least it'll be tax free money. Anyway, the EPL. What happened to Liverpool, Jason,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 39:27

Who's Liverpool?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:29

so you know exactly who Liverpool is?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 39:32

I was actually having a look before. They're not even in the top five anymore.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:35

They're hardly in the EPL anymore, let's

_1_11-11-2025_203920 39:39

don, I,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:40

They, they are. I think they're missing a couple players, but they are in a world of hurt.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 39:46

I haven't really looked into it. They've been going along pretty well. I've been paying more attention to the other Ravens and going and getting players back and, trying to calculate if we can make a wild card thing. So,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 39:57

Well, James actually said to me before to ask you where Liverpool is,'cause United's above him.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:05

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:06

he's a little bit chirpy this season with United sort of sniffing around that top five spot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:12

It'd only be because the Broncos are, are up one The grand final.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:17

he, he's words were Broncos one now United's above Liverpool and FC are above the Jets. So he, he's having a good go at it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:29

Yeah. Yep.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:30

Anyway, he is the first for everything.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:33

Yeah, there he is. So

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:35

we've got, we've gotta find you an EPL team to follow whoever.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:39

he probably has that. He just doesn't tell us

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:41

No, I wouldn't have a clue. I would not have a clue.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:45

Burn

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:46

Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:46

So big.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:47

Jo Johnson landed on Liverpool because something to do with the Champions League.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:53

No,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 40:53

They were winning at some point.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 40:56

no, I wasn't the Champions League, it was the FA Cup. I was watching an FA Cup game and they put in a good effort and I'm like, they're a fucking, they're my sort of team. So I started following'em and I watched Steven Gerard like his can do attitude.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 41:10

Yeah. And then he cried when he tripped over.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 41:13

I don't remember seeing him fall. I'm pretty sure he was pushed.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 41:16

Uh, anyway, city three n Wind over Liverpool.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 41:21

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 41:22

And drop points. They were in the our bets last week. Um, yeah. To all draw Sunderland who were quite sneaky this year. They're just, just cruising along, sitting forth. Um, whether they can hold the pace and be there at the end of the year or not. They're just, they're one of them teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 41:43

No, I dunno. I was having a look before and I was showing seeing who could possibly win it and you know, arsenal sitting pretty good city. Sitting pretty good.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 41:53

yeah, Arsenal's been sitting pretty good for the last three years and they fall off right when it matters.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 41:59

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 42:00

The EPL is not one in November and I had this discussion with Smitty the other night was a bit chirp of Arsenal sitting on top and,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 42:09

I forgot about that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 42:10

Yeah. Well, I said to him, when, when was the last time that the, EPL was won? In November, his response was, and Citi won the

_1_11-11-2025_203920 42:20

The funny thing is the EPL is such a long season. It doesn't finish until what may.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 42:27

mark. Yeah, there's, it's a, 38 round season then plus you throw in all your FA cup games,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 42:36

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 42:37

league games, Europa League, there's, it just, I love it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 42:42

yeah, it, it is good. And it, going off the EPLs were high quality and all of that, but playing all those champions league games, roper and all that, takes a little bit away from those teams. And, it sort of does keep a bit closer of a competition in a way, but,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 42:59

Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 42:59

it still, it's, it's still very, very big gap between regulation and the top teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:07

Between the relegation teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 43:09

Yeah. Well, the teams that are at the bottom of the ladder and the teams at the top of the ladder, there's a massive gap.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:14

Speaking of the relegation teams, the forest

_1_11-11-2025_203920 43:18

Yeah. Oh hey.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:20

out in the forest get some points?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 43:22

Yeah, they're out of relegation. Are they?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:25

Uh, nah. They're still thereabouts. I think they, but they, Hampton's only got two points. I think the Forester now got 10.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 43:35

I hope forests get relegated because they did our, our boy ang bad. They did him dirty.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:41

Well, an is Yeah. Already sniffing around a few other jobs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 43:47

Yeah. Well, I think the, I think the big bets on, him going back to Celtics, Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 43:52

Yeah, he did well at Celtic. I still don't know why Tottenham let him go. yeah, he didn't win that but he qualified Champions League again, still sitting fifth, but Ian set that team up, got'em back to where they, they needed to be

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:11

just from the outside looking in. That's been, other than Celtic where he left on his own accord, that's been pretty well, the story of an Andrew's career. He gets far with teams and then he gets booted.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:24

it's that second year syndrome. He first year, he doesn't go real well and he

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:29

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:30

the following year. And what he did with Tottenham.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:34

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:35

it with Celtic.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:36

I don't think that they should have got rid of him either, but maybe there's just more to it than on field stuff. It might be off, off field stuff. You know when you see coaches and players jumping teams as often as what they do normally, there's a reasoning behind it,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:50

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:51

no matter how good they are.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:52

the forest have now had two winds though.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 44:55

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 44:56

Couple of draws. They're sitting on nine points. Wolves, they're sitting on two. They're the bottom. Then the forest westham and Burnley both on 10 leads in Fulham on 11 Newcastle on 12. And forests managed to get another win this next round. They're outta allegation zone. Do they beat Liverpool though?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:22

No. Nah, won't happen.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:24

Liverpool aren't playing well enough to be for me to be convinced.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:29

That's a pretty pink iPad there.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:32

It is. Yes. No, I've been, I've been Googling teams.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:36

Google and teams. Are you gonna support a team

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:40

yeah, yeah. the hot spurs.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:43

tighten?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:44

Oh,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:44

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:45

We just said to.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:46

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:47

They've done an inch dirty, and you are just gonna jump on top of them.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:51

Who the fuck's Ang?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:52

Ian's Pasta Loo

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:54

The greatest,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:55

dunno.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 45:55

the greatest football coach that Australia's ever seen.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 45:58

If he was so good, why is he not there now?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:01

We don't know. That's what we're arguing about.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:03

Yeah. No, that's who I'm going for.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:06

dear.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:07

Oh,

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:08

Because What was that, what was that other team? Oh, I think it was a couple years ago there where they've, they just came out of nowhere and won the whole

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:16

Lester Titty.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:18

Yeah,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:18

Yeah. They, they've gone back to where they, they've gone back to where they came from.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:23

I was about to say, couldn't find that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:26

they're in the championship,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:28

Do you know what the worst bit about being a Tottenham supporter is

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:31

Well,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:32

your parents, you're a Tottenham supporter, so good luck.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:34

well

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:35

yeah. But

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:36

team do you support?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:37

Liverpool.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:38

wouldn't even know who Tottenham is, would they?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:41

The Liverpool sitting eight.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:43

It'll be right. It's a long season

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:45

Liverpool are the reigning champions, though.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:48

and it's a long season

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:50

That

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:50

will come. Good.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:51

Liverpool,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:52

We'll be all right.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 46:53

Liverpool.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 46:55

Zach, can you get around AFL's world card round next year?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:00

I don't, I don't really know. I'm not that big of a A FL supporter.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 47:06

you don't have to be. A FL and NRL pretty much mirror each other with final system. It's just they've announced that they're gonna do it, and I am almost a hundred percent sure that once we get the bears. The NRL will follow suit because it's the same as what the A FL said. That's an extra week of finals. That's extra views. That's an extra week of games for teams and to make, it's a money grab. Basically. They're trying to sell it off as it's more for the fans to see, but, and basically if you're in that,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:36

I don't

_1_11-11-2025_203920 47:37

you

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:37

it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 47:37

ninth, 10th, if you're in that ninth or 10th position, you are not really, you wouldn't think that you'd have a shot at winning anyway.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:46

Yeah. But

_1_11-11-2025_203920 47:47

Like

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:47

the way I look at it is. The grand final's never been won from through eight

_1_11-11-2025_203920 47:55

Yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 47:55

of what makes any supporter think that a wild card, ninth or 10th position's gonna win it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:04

I know that, but

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:05

say that it's an extra game for the fans to watch. they, they complain about how long the season is now. they've either gotta shorten that season up, which is taking games away from the fans.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:18

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:19

is it lengthening it

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:20

for those teams playing in that wild card round, they play an extra week, but the, the top six teams will get a week off?

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:27

from the

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:28

not, not really because it doesn't first and second get a week off anyway,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:32

No, no. They play the first week of the finals as it is now.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:36

win. Now you get. yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:38

they'll have the, they're gonna have wild card round, which will be 10th versus seventh,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:45

the

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:46

and then ninth will play eighth, and the winners outta them play fifth and sixth,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:51

the only

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:51

and then they start the finals like it normally is.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:55

The

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 48:55

so that was Man, manly and Dolphins this year,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 48:58

Yeah. So they would've played against who come eighth?

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:02

roosters.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:03

Yeah. They would've played the, they would've played the roosters and,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:06

Pen. No pen. In fifth.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:08

no, they were on four, no.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:10

were four.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:10

Fifth.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:11

No, no, they were six Panthers.'cause

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:13

Yeah.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:13

fifth.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:14

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:15

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:16

Sharks. I.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:17

think Sharks.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:18

Sharks.

squadcaster-ead4_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:18

Yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:19

so they would've had another week to play before the actual finals started, which the A FL have a buyer before their final series. But they'll probably move that by, next year they might move it before the grand final, so they don't have the problem that they had last year with the concussion rules and stuff like that, which our game could have the same problem because if someone gets concussed as a 10 down stand down period from a concussion the week before and misses out on a grand final, there'll be a heap of blow up about it because they don't have that week off the week before.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 49:52

it's all right. If you're Samoan, you're allowed to go out and play with when you can. Concuss,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 49:56

Yeah. Or that's what I never understood about that. That was a grade one watching it. But in a game of NRL, if you have a hit like that, you can't play for 10 days. He played 30 minutes later. Like it doesn't make sense to me.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 50:10

back to the, the world card in top six getting a break. The one benefit I see from it. My super coach team won't fall apart there being so many players getting rested the last two weeks, they're gonna get the first week of the finals off.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 50:31

Yeah. Well that's the other argument.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 50:33

I can get around it.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 50:35

That's the, that's the other thing that it, it promotes as well. It means that teams will play their best teams and they won't substitute'em off for that last or rest players in that last week.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 50:46

But I, as for, yeah, I still don't think that it's gonna be that much of a benefit in all honesty.'cause fans, you've even gotta shorten that regular season up. cause this season can't go any longer than October long weekend. It's too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 51:07

No, they'll just start it earlier.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 51:09

it's still too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 51:11

I'm all for the,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 51:12

The game still can't be played early because of daylight savings and everything the first few weeks. So how do you start the season earlier when in preseason we're having 20 minute quarters'cause it's too hot.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 51:27

yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 51:28

Unless they're talking that that round will start the year after the bears come in. you've got the first game two weeks before the season you're overseas where it's cooler.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 51:44

Yeah, it, it could work that way. I never thought of that.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 51:48

So

_1_11-11-2025_203920 51:49

I'm all, I'm all for the wild card format when we get to 20 teams, because then that's still half the competition are eligible to play in the finals just like I was when there were 16 teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 51:59

yeah.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 52:00

That's it. That's the only reason that I'm all for it because if you can, if you manage to be in the top half of your competition, you should be able to play finals. I think.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 52:09

Yeah. Well I know you go to the wall card round. Do you go down that path of conferences?

_1_11-11-2025_203920 52:17

Well, I have a feeling that NRL will eventually will be split into conferences. I just don't think I'm gonna like the way that they do it, because when they do the conferences, I want'em to have a draw out of a barrel every week for which teams are in what conference. So, any team could play any team in the Green final. Really, I'm all for that. I don't want, all right. You're in this conference permanently and then you're in this conference permanently. The NFL it works well because there were two different competitions that joined together. If they had have had a RL and Super League and joined them back together Work as a Super Bowl.'cause you essentially have two separate competitions run under one banner that meet each other in the final, which is pretty much what the NFL is, except it's a schedule. They play certain teams every three years or something But

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 53:05

go to a rotating conference where your top 10 teams are in sort of a conference. 10 teams are in a B top five from each meet and do a final series.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 53:21

yeah,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 53:22

And

_1_11-11-2025_203920 53:23

I could get

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 53:23

then when. Then when you, at the end of everything, you have your Super Bowl,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 53:29

Yeah.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 53:29

and then you all your points for all your points against your complete ladder points determines final ladder. And then you go top 10 a conference, bottom 10 B conference. Start again the following season.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 53:47

Yeah, something I still like the lotto draw, just randomly picking. Just go, all right. A first name, first name comes out. You go that side. You can make an event around it and stuff just you can with a draft and all of that sort of stuff.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 54:00

yeah, but you can't, you have those Darby, the Brisbane Cowboys, Darby, your Queensland Darby, they've still gotta happen

_1_11-11-2025_203920 54:10

No, no. still think all those games should play. I just think they should play each other once. I don't think they should play each other twice. I don't think there's any need to play each other twice, because it's not fair if you're playing some teams twice and other teams once, if you play each other once, that's the fairest that you're gonna get at.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 54:29

when you get the 20

_1_11-11-2025_203920 54:30

shortens the season up to 19 rounds from 20 teams.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 54:34

when you get the 20 teams, that's fine. But the moment when you got buyers and all the others. The only other reason is you go to the, everyone plays once, you can have a standalone round in the middle of the season. gets the week off,

_1_11-11-2025_203920 54:52

Yeah, you could have,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 54:54

or

_1_11-11-2025_203920 54:54

could have,

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 54:55

that international weekend.

_1_11-11-2025_203920 54:57

yeah. that's what I think you should do anyway. I think you should play each other once it Dr. It dramatically shortens it up and then work out and have a break in the middle for Origin and a Pacific Cup with New Zealand, Samoa and Tonga or something that. I think you should have your international break. Have some, have Samoa and Tonga play each other every year. Have New Zealand Play England every year, something that. But, have origin on, then it doesn't affect the teams as much, and you can get rid of the buyers altogether.

zach-host13_1_11-11-2025_203918 55:31

If you're gonna have that international period where those teams play, you still would have Australia play some point. You can't just have every other country play

Speaker 55:45

Boys got anything for games this week?

Speaker 2 55:47

Yeah, I had the PS four up and running for a little bit. Played a bit of snow runner, um,

Speaker 55:54

snow Runner or Mud Runner.

Speaker 2 55:56

I was gonna get Snow Runner Mud Runner first.

Speaker 55:59

I like Snow Runner better than Mud Runner. It's a bit more, I just liked it. I like those sort of simulator game things like farming simulator and construction simulator in that you're gonna get around American Truck Simulator when it comes to the PS five.

Speaker 2 56:15

I'll give it a go. I probably won't do the whole steering wheel and everything

Speaker 56:19

in a real truck. It could be fun.

Speaker 2 56:21

No,

Speaker 56:23

I guess I'd use it if I got a steering wheel for Project Motorsport.

Speaker 2 56:27

Yeah, if you had it for that

Speaker 56:28

motor racing, whatever it is. I went and got a camera this week, so I would do some streaming. Do it through the podcast to see if we can entice people to come listen to the podcast. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 56:39

Yeah, just, just leave your face out of it. Use the background.

Speaker 56:43

I'm just looking into it. I'm gonna see whether or not I want to or don't want to stream some battlefield that I've managed to put 60 hours into this week. You've jumped on the Battlefield six week as well, Zach, or did you? How'd you find

Speaker 3 56:54

it? Yeah, for about five hours,

Speaker 56:56

I haven't had much better to do.

Speaker 3 56:57

Maybe you should do a bit of overtime shifts so that you can afford all these games.

Speaker 57:03

Well, hopefully we'll get really popular and people will just start sending us games to test for'em. Maybe. Maybe that'll,

Speaker 3 57:11

well, if anyone wants to throw a PS five Hoover's way, you will take one, a couple of gaming computers. I'll gladly have one. Yeah. Don't know how I'll go setting it up in the van while I'm living away from work, but I'll just,

Speaker 57:27

I'm sure you'll find a way. I,

Speaker 3 57:29

Gary, there's

Speaker 57:29

a will, there's a

Speaker 3 57:30

way. I guarantee I will find a way

Speaker 57:33

whether there's a will, there's a way. Isn't your middle name William?

Speaker 3 57:36

Nah.

Speaker 57:37

Oh, well there's no way. That was so bad, so bad.

Speaker 2 57:41

You gotta leave that in. You gotta

Speaker 57:43

leave it. You're just looking at me like an idiot.

Speaker 3 57:45

Yeah. Well,

Speaker 57:46

I'm not leaving that in no way. Yeah,

Speaker 2 57:47

leave it in and,

Speaker 3 57:48

and this is why your wife folds you up like a pretzel.

Speaker 57:53

That never happened.

Speaker 3 57:55

What was that? Don't treat me of a good time.

Speaker 57:58

Yeah, we got a recommendation for a game this week and I went and gave it a game Fiske that I work with. He listens to every episode. Thanks for listening and thanks to everybody else that has been supporting and listening to us for all 10 of our episodes that we've had so far, or 11 episodes in reality, but 10 normal episodes. Thanks for all your support and following us and like and share. Our pages and Spotify and wherever you get your podcast from. Fiske, he recommended satisfactory to me. It come out on the PS five the other day. It's been on computer for a while. I've seen videos of it, but I haven't watched it from how it starts off or anything like that. And it didn't really interest me because it was just a big factory thing and I didn't understand it, but I went and had a look at it and it's just a craft build, collect resources and all that stuff, just like you're doing. Arc or any of those survival games that you play, but you're setting up a production line and setting up a factory on the planet and sending stuff back to the mothership or something if you like. Those sort of games. I actually really enjoyed it. I put a few hours into that this week too.

Speaker 3 59:08

Really? Did do not much at all this weekend or this block off?'cause you manage to clock up 50 odd hours on battlefield.

Speaker 59:18

50 hours has been over three weeks. It hasn't just been this weekend.

Speaker 3 59:23

Mm. Yeah. Well, you, you,

Speaker 59:26

I didn't play it the whole time. I've been playing Madden. I've been playing satisfactory. I had other games that I was playing. Yeah. I didn't get the 60 hours on Battlefield just this weekend.

Speaker 3 59:36

But you played more hours of gaming in this block off than what you did. Hours of work on your last block.

Speaker 59:44

No,

Speaker 3 59:45

not

Speaker 59:45

necessarily.

Speaker 3 59:46

That's what I'm hearing. No,

Speaker 59:48

I think you're wrong.

Speaker 3 59:50

Am I though?

Speaker 59:51

No,

Speaker 3 59:52

I I You really need to do a little bit more work.

Speaker 59:57

What have you been doing at work, Zach?

Speaker 3 59:59

I have an apprentice working for me. I got giving him some good directions on what not to do and getting him home safe every afternoon, shaping the future.

Speaker 1:00:11

That's not what you told me you were doing earlier.

Speaker 3 1:00:12

No, no. Earlier today I was right in the shit. Quite literally.

Speaker 1:00:20

I was even talking about that for US Mobile. You've been getting around that.

Speaker 3 1:00:26

Yeah. That was a little bit different, and I did get around a little bit of it, but that doesn't count. I was sitting on top of a stockpile at that stage.

Speaker 1:00:36

Yeah. How did you find it?

Speaker 3 1:00:39

One improvement that I'll make personally for myself is I'll probably get a controller that my phone clips into so that I can see the full screen.

Speaker 1:00:51

Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:00:52

That's just those type of, and you play mobile games, it's, that's always a drama. I do really enjoy rust and I thought I'd sign up for that trial and give it a go. So we'll see how that pans out over the next few weeks anyway.

Speaker 2 1:01:09

Yeah, you might have to hit someone up that's got a 3D printer to make you up a little controller.

Speaker 3 1:01:16

I've actually got a 3D printer.

Speaker 2 1:01:19

That's what I'll say.

Speaker 1:01:21

So I didn't think it was yours. I thought it was Rogan's.

Speaker 3 1:01:23

Well, he's had it for a bit over 12 months and he doesn't have a great deal of interest in it anymore. May make its way into my office and I'll make the incoherent podcast trophy for when I. Whoop your asses at golf.

Speaker 1:01:40

I'm gonna buy a trophy.

Speaker 3 1:01:43

Will it be as cool as mine now? My blood, sweat

Speaker 1:01:46

and tears. We'll see. You won't put anything into it. You just fuck. Anyway. Oh God. Where are you at with your PlayStation five, Hoover.

Speaker 2 1:01:55

Still still waiting. Still

Speaker 1:01:58

Still waiting.

Speaker 2 1:01:59

Yes. There. PS four in it at the moment.

Speaker 1:02:03

That's all right. There's still PS four games you can play online with like

Speaker 2 1:02:06

rust.

Speaker 1:02:07

Now that I'm streaming, I can show everybody why I hate rust and yeah, it frustrates me

Speaker 3 1:02:14

still.

Speaker 1:02:15

So I might put about 30 minutes into that one and go back to the battlefield.

Speaker 3 1:02:19

No. Well, you've got survival, evolve. Play a bit of arc.

Speaker 1:02:24

Yeah, we can do that. I was actually thinking about playing ARC the other day. I've also been wanting to play NHL for

Speaker 3 1:02:30

No. You can get fucked with your arc. You're off it. You cannot get around it at all.

Speaker 1:02:37

I do. I like playing. Huh? Justin

Speaker 3 1:02:39

has a very bad habit of getting right into it. And then he goes, I've built the wall. We are protected now see you in six months.

Speaker 1:02:50

I've got other shit I've gotta play.

Speaker 3 1:02:52

Uh, and then he removes it from his PlayStation hides away in a little USB drive, and then he gets in a mood, oh, I might play arc and. The moment's gone.

Speaker 1:03:06

It's not,

Speaker 3 1:03:06

it is the blood, sweat, and tears have gone.

Speaker 1:03:10

No. So you, you was looking at possibly getting sons of the forest as well.

Speaker 3 1:03:15

I am. Yeah.

Speaker 1:03:16

I know that we put a few hours into the forest online.

Speaker 3 1:03:20

Uh, yeah.

Speaker 1:03:21

Before I fucked off.

Speaker 3 1:03:22

Yeah. Another one of those games you'd build a cabin and fuck it, I'm out. Deal with it yourself, Zach.

Speaker 1:03:28

I'm just a creator.

Speaker 3 1:03:30

No, you're banned from building.'cause then you might get a. On there a bit often,

Speaker 1:03:36

I, I hold your hand and teach you to walk and then you're on your own.

Speaker 3 1:03:39

Yeah, that's fine. Now it happens.

Speaker 1:03:42

Mm.

Speaker 3 1:03:42

Nine times outta 10. Gotta fix your dramas.

Speaker 1:03:45

Have you got anything else for gaming this week?

Speaker 3 1:03:48

Not really. I'm still very interested in that Xbox combination and,

Speaker 1:03:53

yeah. There's not much, there's not that much information about it really, other than that leak stuff that come out the other day. But I'm intrigued by it as

Speaker 3 1:04:02

well. It's been up for the last couple of years that that's the path they'll go. It wish only the, yeah, over the last sort of two months that more and the whispers are getting stronger. So interesting to see what PlayStation do.

Speaker 1:04:20

Yeah. So Well, I, I think with all the Xbox Games coming to PlayStation and all that stuff, I think that's all starting to sort itself out.

Speaker 3 1:04:31

You can,

Speaker 1:04:31

new fours is gonna come in straight to PlayStation. Halo's coming to PlayStation.

Speaker 3 1:04:36

Yeah. You can cross play every hour. It doesn't, it makes sense that it, it, you just build the game and if you wanna buy it to play it, you do it.

Speaker 1:04:47

Yeah, no, I agree with that. I, I just don't see how, I suppose they, they probably pay a lot of money for it to be exclusive to the console, but you'd think developers would make more money off it.

Speaker 3 1:05:00

They will, by

Speaker 1:05:02

having it on all consoles, but at, at the same time, horizon zero dawn, and all that's made by a PlayStation. But if PlayStation sold the, sold the rights off to Xbox or Microsoft. Nintendo, that's more revenue for'em as well. But it also means that people wanna play those games. They have to buy their console. So where do you Yeah,

Speaker 3 1:05:24

but you'd have to buy them consoles if they're available to everyone on every console.

Speaker 1:05:29

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:05:30

So does PlayStation allow Nintendo to have rights to their games, though we all know how,

Speaker 1:05:36

well, Nintendo's probably the only one that, you know, they hold all the cards to all of their games, so. They're probably the main culprits for it. And knowing the history between Sony and Nintendo, I don't think that they're gonna get along very well, to be honest. No. But yeah, that's the story for another time, I think.

Speaker 3 1:05:58

Yeah. So on the predictions, I guess.

Speaker 1:06:02

Onto the predictions.

Speaker 3 1:06:04

Yeah.

Speaker 1:06:05

All right. Our predictions are brought to you by cross hair, pipe and excavation for all your pipe excavation, poly welding, or general needs. Head over to. Their Facebook page and get in contact with Zach and see if he can help you out with whatever you may need. Co. He's been covering a fair area. He was out at Warren a couple of weeks ago. You're up to Hunter Valley for the next couple of weeks as well. So

Speaker 3 1:06:29

yeah, I've got a couple of months here at the moment. But yeah, time away from the family, which is a bit hard, but. Hard. Hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1:06:40

Best way. The best way is just to get in contact and with him and see if he can service your area, I suppose, and what he can do for you. Yeah. Or if you know anyone that's looking into that sort of stuff. Yeah. All. Zach, what are your predictions this week?

Speaker 3 1:06:57

This week being international break soccer, I've picked a couple of international games. Portugal he gave me Too, too strong for Island and willing to get around a bit of a Viking clap and cheer on Iceland to beat whatever the hell their name is.'cause I cannot pronounce it.

Speaker 1:07:21

Yeah. Ho. Say

Speaker 2 1:07:25

I've gone the. Else Cowboys? No.

Speaker 3 1:07:29

Denver Broncos.

Speaker 2 1:07:30

Denver Broncos.

Speaker 1:07:31

Denver

Speaker 2 1:07:31

Bronco. Denver Bronco.

Speaker 1:07:32

Denver Broncos. So

Speaker 3 1:07:34

he's gone on. And

1:07:34

the

Speaker 1:07:34

Boston

Speaker 3 1:07:35

Brewers, he's gone on, got onto Jonesy's bandwagon here and he's getting around the Broncos this week.

Speaker 1:07:42

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:42

And the Boston Brewers.

Speaker 1:07:45

Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:07:46

Which I'm, which I'm confident in them. I reckon

Speaker 1:07:49

you're confident in the Boston Bruins.

Speaker 2 1:07:51

Yes.

Speaker 1:07:51

Yes. I didn't know you were such an expert on ice hockey.

Speaker 2 1:07:54

Just, just picking it up,

Speaker 3 1:07:56

I suppose. You told us you are a bit of an expert in NFL. We're still waiting for your tips to come to fruition.

Speaker 1:08:03

My tips are, I've got the Minnesota Wild in the NHL to beat the San Jose Sharks and the Ravens to beat the Cleveland Browns. This week, get four on the trot and he start heading towards that Super Bowl. Glory.

Speaker 3 1:08:19

Well, I guess we'll see.

Speaker 1:08:22

We will see and think they're gonna go on a run. Now everyone seems healthy. I think we're there.

Speaker 3 1:08:27

Speaking of us playing golf earlier. Yeah. And streaming to our newfound YouTube channel and everything. Little side bet who, who's ever bet doesn't come off his week, stands in front of the, the tee box and cops, the little driving balls to the back.

Speaker 1:08:50

Yeah.

Speaker 3 1:08:51

Now we

Speaker 1:08:52

can do that

Speaker 3 1:08:53

now. I'm fairly confident in mine. Well, I picked wisely. I was chasing a few dollar signs. Just a couple of favorites there.

Speaker 1:09:03

Fuck. I hope the fucking island get up all that team that you couldn't pronounce.

Speaker 3 1:09:06

Well, no, I don't hope.

Speaker 1:09:09

I hope so.

Speaker 3 1:09:10

How confident are you, Hoover?

Speaker 2 1:09:12

Look, I'm pretty confident at the moment. Just

1:09:16

have

Speaker 1:09:16

to, when you told me, I wouldn't have believed that the Denver Broncos are gonna beat. The Kansas City Chiefs, and I still don't think they will, but Denver is been, has been more successful this year compared to the Chiefs. So there's a chance,

Speaker 2 1:09:31

but I, I might even throw out a score 30,

Speaker 1:09:35

a score,

Speaker 2 1:09:36

33, the seven.

Speaker 3 1:09:40

You're going big.

Speaker 1:09:42

That's a absolute hammering of five time frigging Super Bowl contenders.

Speaker 2 1:09:48

Yeah, because

Speaker 1:09:48

three time champions,

Speaker 2 1:09:49

they're not Super Bowl contenders this year, are they?

Speaker 1:09:53

Yeah, they're,

Speaker 3 1:09:54

they're still contenders, so

Speaker 1:09:56

they're still thereabouts. Yeah. 30. Got anything else This three

Speaker 2 1:10:00

seven? Yep.

Speaker 3 1:10:00

That's.

Speaker 1:10:01

33 to seven one

Speaker 3 1:10:02

touchdown.

Speaker 2 1:10:03

Yeah.

Speaker 1:10:04

I can't wait to watch this game on Monday now straight after night shift, I'm gonna sit down and watch it because I just, it's getting more,

Speaker 3 1:10:11

there's a lot

Speaker 1:10:11

of ridiculous,

Speaker 3 1:10:12

there's a lot of welt riding on this.

Speaker 1:10:15

There is a lot of welts riding on

Speaker 3 1:10:16

this. So we go on full packet 12.

Speaker 1:10:19

I don't have a pack of 12 of them. I've got a pack of six.

Speaker 3 1:10:22

Uh,

Speaker 1:10:23

three each

Speaker 3 1:10:23

under team mill. I go, oh, bucket.

Speaker 1:10:26

That does include Hoover now too, right?'cause anyone that gets all of them wrong. So it's me and Hoover in this

Speaker 3 1:10:31

thing. Yeah. So I'm turning up with a 44 going drum full of ping pong balls. Two golf that day.

Speaker 2 1:10:37

Is it if you get both of'em wrong or you only get one wrong?

Speaker 1:10:41

No. If you get both of'em wrong.

Speaker 3 1:10:44

In who?

Speaker 2 1:10:45

There's two balls you get, you get

Speaker 1:10:47

No. If you get, if you get, you've gotta get, you've gotta get both of them right to have a shot at hitting the ball.

Speaker 2 1:10:53

So, right. So whatever your bets are, one bet is one ball. So if you get two ball, two wrong,

Speaker 1:10:58

no,

Speaker 2 1:10:58

you get two balls.

Speaker 1:10:59

No,

Speaker 2 1:10:59

you get

Speaker 1:11:00

one only. Only you get to tee it up. You only get to tee up if your bet comes off, which means both games have to win. If one loses, you're out. Does that make sense?

Speaker 3 1:11:14

Front or back?

Speaker 1:11:16

Back?

Speaker 3 1:11:16

You sure.

Speaker 1:11:18

Hold on.

Speaker 3 1:11:19

I got, I've got a

Speaker 1:11:20

full

Speaker 3 1:11:20

mask that we can protect.

Speaker 1:11:23

I need me face for streaming.

Speaker 3 1:11:25

That's all right. This mask will cover it.

Speaker 1:11:28

No. All right. You's got anything else?

Speaker 3 1:11:32

Nah, I guess that's,

Speaker 1:11:34

you wanted to sta suite. No.

Speaker 3 1:11:36

Yeah, no, there's not much happening this week. Uh, head home to the

Speaker 1:11:40

No

Speaker 3 1:11:40

family this weekend. Yeah. Might, yeah. Catch up on a bit of Rust Mobile,

Speaker 1:11:47

play some battlefield.

Speaker 3 1:11:48

Had a bit of mowing to catch up on. I reckon I can drive the mower with me knees and play a bit of Rust Mobile.

Speaker 1:11:54

Yeah. Right. All right. Let's buy from us. Anyway. Yeah, thanks for listening and thanks for your support and I can share the page and. Tell your friends

Speaker 2 1:12:05

hero.

Speaker 5 1:12:07

Thank you for joining Zach Hoover and I on the Inca Here podcast. If you'd like to follow us on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast from, also head over to our Facebook page and follow us there. We're also on Instagram, the Inca Here podcast. Thank you. Bye.