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Episode 13: Redemption Trivia

This week on The Incoherent Podcast, Zach, Hoover, and Jason are back with another chaotic catch-up. The boys break down the games they’ve been playing and what they’ve been up to, before diving into the ins and outs of the 2nd Ashes Test. They also cover the latest NFL results, and unpack the NRL 360 delay—what it means for players looking to join and how the league could rethink its scheduling altogether.

The crew chats about the PNG Chiefs, tries their hand at a round of Redemption Trivia, and shares their thoughts on recent game releases and changes coming to the PS Portal. As always, they wrap things up with their weekly sports predictions.

Tune in for banter, bold takes, and probably at least one opinion they’ll regret later.


Welcome to the Inca here in podcast.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

welcome back for episode 13 of the Incoherent Podcast. I'm here with Zach and Hoover again. So boys, how was work?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Uh, I

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hey,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

this week.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Did you actually not work this week? You off all week? You was at work? Just say, what are we doing, say late for then? So yeah, we'd just get up to over the weekend,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

little, little bits of arc.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

little bits of arc. We'll get to ARC later. We'll get arc later.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I didn't get many hours in on arc this week. Just checked me dinosaurs. Made sure they were alive.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. Right. I don't believe you

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

why not?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

because I was playing with you when we weren't feeding dinosaurs. Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

no, but that was, that was to set up something else.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, he did play Battlefield for a bit though.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

We did get a few hours in on Battlefield Double Points weekend. So,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. He can play it for free. So if you had had a PlayStation five, whoever you would've been able to play for nothing for the weekend.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that brings me to my question. How'd you go, Hoover?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Ooh, we dunno yet. just have to wait.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Nah, but did you fucking, did you talk to Bra about one? I ring you about?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Oh yeah, yeah, I did. his mother's already sorted one out.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, right.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah, but it isn't the, it isn't the one that I was looking at.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

do you get a pro?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

no, the digital,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh yeah. Without the dis,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

two terabyte one or whatever it

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. It doesn't have a disk drive.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You can buy the disc drive separately to plug in with the US sb, so you can use your PS four games.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it's all right. I'll just use PS four for PS four games.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, I thought that too. And then me, PS four died.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. The, the only drama with that is they're start phasing PS four out,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

so you won't even now

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

won't get updates and stuff, and it'll slowly phase out.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, even now, like to go and buy something at EB games for PS four fucking ridiculous, because I tried to buy new con new controllers for the kids to play mine. But yeah, I think they'll just, they'll end up with the five and I'll use it and find myself a PC as well

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

So Hoover, we were supposed to play Call of the World this weekend. You didn't show up,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

man. been a busy weekend.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

but you did play golf. You did play golf.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

No, I didn't play golf.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What would you send him? Photos of the freaking crown,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Oh yeah, yeah. No, I was there on Friday night.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

but not playing golf.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What didn't you go?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I'd ta, I thought I'd take a picture of the hole. No, it was Charlie's, uh, formal.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

So he send me a picture of a hole

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. Yeah. I was walking back over to the car trailer.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Mm. Fair enough.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. I thought, oh, if I send you this, he's like, what the fuck you doing there?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, well backfired.'cause I knew exactly why you were there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, all right. So we're gonna try and trial something'cause we've got our golf hits Still dunno when we're playing golf'cause we can't match it up. But we're gonna try

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

talked.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

redemption trivia. Hey.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

about the golf this weekend, but then we come up with another game plan for this weekend.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh yeah, we did. Hey,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

no, we're gonna, we're gonna try and record some, PlayStation five stuff. We just gotta work out the rules and that we reverse each other. And is it gonna be seven days to die? Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't know. Apparently I do have it. It's already on me. PlayStation.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you have it. on it before. We played on it before. That's the one where I took off and fell into the bottom of a house and lost all my shit and moved fucking around for ages trying to get it back.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

kind of a shit game. that's the one, nah, we'll be right. We'll sort something out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't wanna play you in Arc.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

what not,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, I don't know. I've got 120 hours in arc. How many have you got?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I can't recall.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Fuck off.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So Jason thinks I've got a little bit of an obsession with arc because I have 1300 hours.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's like every day for nearly fucking the last six months it's been out and it's been out for like 12 months though.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Longer than that.'cause it come out on PC when you live in a bulgar still.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

cause

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

know. 1300 hours.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

downloaded it on PC when I was at your house working in out Thorley for those couple weeks.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. Mm.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

But,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

So just, did you just watch any sport this week,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I caught glimpses.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

glimpses?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

tabs on the cricket, so that's, yeah, a couple of big

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

When's the, when's the men's Big Bash start? I

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it'd be soon.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

finished.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

girls finished, they start.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

really

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

in the next week or two because they play over Christmas and stuff,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

okay.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I think it's two weeks time.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

okay. I just thought it was weird that yeah, it's getting really late in the year and they're not playing it, but yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

today was Kaja was ruled out for Australia,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and then Mark Woods being ruled out for England as well. So big talks coming in, leading into the series about how, how the England bowling attack would hold up and whether they'd get through the full series. And they play two games. And now Mark Wood's injured and can't play game two,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

he played two days of cricket. It's not that bad. He didn't even bowl that many overs.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

to be honest, they did get smashed, so it's probably got something to do with it. Maybe scared.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

he, he did ask the English coaching staff whether he could drive Perth to the gaba. He thought it was a small drive until they showed him on Google Maps how many days it would take him to drive across Australia to get to Queensland.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Through the desert. But did they tell him that he has to go around the outside? He can't go through the middle?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't know. But yeah, I had a bit of a laugh when I read that story,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Kja, there was talks after the first test whether he is played his last game for Australia. I don't know whether he is played his last game, but if head this week, comes out and scores, runs and really yeah, dominates that position, I, I don't see how. Kage can get back in when frees up another spot for an all rounder in the middle order, your boat, you still got injuries and stuff for allow Kage to come back in, but I don't know. It's,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Or if what if they're up like four nil in the series, that fifth test and they just give him a sendoff in the fifth test. I know that he was a bit disappointing in the last test'cause of his hurt back and playing golf and all of that stuff, but he's still been a pretty strong player for Australia for a long time and deserves a fair sendoff.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. He probably deserves his send off. If I'm looking for a send off, I'm probably gonna wanna do it at home. And he's home grounds at the gaba

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

he's, he's gonna miss out on that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't think it'll be his last test, to be honest. I think he'll be, he'll be there somewhere or he'll work his way back.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

old.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

38.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You got a lot of youngsters coming through and the way that Yeah, we've dealt with blood and people in, in the past, I think is a perfect opportunity to blood a new opener in

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Whatever happened to that young fella that

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Conses.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah, the young fella. Yeah. That messed up with fucking India stirred them up. Something shocking.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't disagree with him not being selected. I think jora for Asha and Wood. Bowling a hundred and forty eight, a hundred forty nine kilometers at him. I ain He's not, he's not gonna face that. Like yeah Ra, he quit. he's archer and wood a lot more at the body and 150 clicks at the body. He's only young. Just leave him be, let him keep screwing runs in shield cricket, build that confidence playing proper cricket shots.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

He

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

or

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

like me. Just attack the ball,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I got nothing against him.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

thing you are attacking is a fucking zinger box.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

mate. The rule was, Zach said when me and Adrian Everett were batting together, we just had to see it out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

As soon as Adrian said that to me, know what we done. every ball. Hey. And that was the game that we outscored Zack, both of us outscored. Zack,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

game out of ever

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

we won. Hey, we won that game for you.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You know what I was thinking the other day, if they changed the spelling of Jim to KFC, I'd probably go a lot more.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

looking at you, you go pretty good

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hey,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

looking at you. You go there enough,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I went there the other day. I love me Colonel Deep.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

That's shit.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I love it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

can see.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

outside of, playing Battlefield almost all weekend, so been smashing through the challenges and stuff and having a, having a ball really. I've been really enjoying it. I was keeping an eye on the supercars, their grand finals last weekend with the three races. Chaz Monster come through with the win. it was the first year they've had their final series. Normally they just have. Their championship points, you just accumulate points. Whoever's at the top of the end of the season wins. But this year they've implemented a finals format where you get knocked out and stuff and a lot of people are split. The way that I see it, it made the racing more exciting at the end of the year.'cause every other year you get to about Bathurst and Shane Van Bergen or Jamie Windup or someone's already wrapped the championship up well before the end of the season. There's still four or five weekends to go. I think the final thing is a good thing, but a lot of people are a bit upset'cause Brock Feeney's had a perfect, almost perfect season and he had one bad race on Sunday where he got turned around. And then had engine trouble and ended up coming 20th and missed out on winning the grand final basically. Is it really that different to Canberra Raiders who went through the season, won the minor premier ship, were looking really good, and then got screwed over in extra time against Brisbane. It's not really that different is it? That's just sport.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah, but see that, that's like in Speedway, I follow the speedway, like in the sprint cars, we've, we've

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

It the only sprinting you do.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

we've watched like a mains, the feature race and all that, where it's 30 laps. You've probably got 30 drivers in there, only small tracks. You have like the leader, he's, he's going through lap cars and we've seen it where lap cars have taken the leader out and couldn't finish the race.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

seen it where he got taken out on the last lap. He was on the last corner and got taken out and was flipped and yeah, lost the race'cause of a lapped car,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

the stewards and all that. They do get in the headsets and do tell like the other drivers and all that, they're coming up behind and hold your line and all that. But yeah, it's, it's just racing.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it's, it's bad luck. There's not much you can do about it. a lot of, A lot of drivers do know that yeah, they're sitting in 30th and they're not gonna be able to win or anything. But

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

some other ones that just want to still get a decent place.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it's just a luck of the draw really.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I know that I, in racing it seems the drivers, front and center and all of that, but it is a team sport. you've got all your mechanics, you've got your managers, people that do the strategy, the car itself's a completely different element as well. So it's still a team sport. It's not in an individual sport. I think that the final series has added something to the supercar That was some people watching it, some people weren't. I know a lot of people stopped watching it when Foxdale took over most of the races and stuff, which doesn't bother me'cause I've got KO anyway.'cause they've got a rugby league channel. I can watch NFL I, I can watch K all year round. It's worth the money for me. But some people they only watch the v eights and all the supercars they refuse to watch it on Foxtel'cause they refuse to pay for it. But. I think it added something to be honest, the races that I've seen this year,'cause supercars is hard for me to watch with work.'cause most weekends when it's on, I'm at work and it's hard to follow. it's been a pretty good season. I know race won Cam Waters or the first weekend, I think Cam Waters won all three races and just was smashing it. it's been a good season. Well done to Cha Moi's first championship ever. It is a bit marred by this final series thing, but if the final series stays here for the next 25 years, it's not gonna really matter. Is it where if they only do it short term and then go back to the old system? Well that's when he's got an asterisk next to his name'cause he won on different terms. So just have to.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I can get around either, either way. final series

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Do you, do you think though, because I know, I know what you are thinking is'cause you watch EPL and EPL, it is the most points in the season wins.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

If EPL went to a final system like the NRL would you find that more exciting than what it is now?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you don't think so?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I don't, I don't it would bring that excitement because in, in EPL, even the league, Bundes League, all those, there, there's already so many games.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

at 38, that's just season games,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, but they, they play each other three times.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's right.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

If you only played each other twice and didn't play each other three games, that that frees up a lot of games.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

not gonna shorten that season over

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

of all

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

they'd make too much money off it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but yeah. So I don't think a final series in that aspect would work. But

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

guess there's no, why it couldn't either.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

no, I, I do agree with ya.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I can get a round either way, like.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

think, I think they already do have a final, final series. It's just played out differently because it's called Champions League, that's a final series.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

to an extent

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Best of the best in the world playing, or best of the best in Europe, playing against each other to say, as the best in Europe. And then you get the Club World Cup.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

So they do have a final series in a way.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

not, nah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Nah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

because you can win Euro roper and then go off to the Champions League.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. Well that's just a wild card.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Euro ropers are already, it's a whole different league again.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, but that's just your wild card though.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's, it, it brings more strategy. Like I said, I can get around either direction, whatever direction it goes. not a big V eight fan. I mean, they ruined it when they got rid of holding forward. We've discussed this, um,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm all about ra. So now that Chaz Mo, it's won, that means the number one goes to the super in its debut season. I think that's pretty cool. I'm looking forward to super. I'm team super all the way. I love supers, supers and skylines. Bring skylines to the supercar.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

they're not super cars, but

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

sorry ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna have to cut this broadcast short.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Why? What's wrong with Skylines?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Are you 12?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I like R 30 fives. They're good anyway,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

how good does the Ford look? is Red Bull? The Red Bull colors on the Ford?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I couldn't care what colors they're,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it looks good, I reckon.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

no,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

good Ravens go? Johnson?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

we'll get to that too. Wasn't very pleased watching it. They got a couple of touchdowns taken off them, well, not taken off'em. One of them was dropped over the line.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

They had so many fumbles. They were, shit,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That one over the one, the one that went over the end zone that was punched out. By the other player.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I was watching the game on the way home from work. They said the amount of fumbles they had in that game was more than what they had all last season.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It sounds about ho welcome to being a, that's what it's like being a Ravens fan. As soon as I, as soon as I'm like, nah, I'm, I'm gonna, I'm gonna support the Ravens. As soon as that happened, it only took me about three weeks to realize I've just supported the Newcastle Knights of the fucking NFL.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I was about to

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

'cause they've got their quarterback that's paid more than anyone else, and every time he's always injured, no, he doesn't play enough and this and that. And when he,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

name? Ponga.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

no, Lamar Jackson is basically Kalen ponga for the Ravens, and they wh about the same stuff and want to get rid of him, and he gets paid too much and doesn't do enough. And it's every season I'm supporting the Newcastle Knights of the frigging NFL. And I'm sticking with it, I realize this really quickly. while we're on NFL, there's a lot of teams. I think the Raiders are out now. They can't make the finals. There's probably a few others that are around about there, but there's a few teams, good teams that, probably need to get their finger outta the, outta their ass and have a good go of it over the next couple of weeks.'cause the finals are only a couple of weeks away. The Ravens are one of them. And the other one's probably the, the chiefs. Patriots, they've won 11 this season, 10 in a row, which is a pretty good achievement, and they're looking really, really good. the young quarterback is killing it, so

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

the chiefs are done

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think the chiefs are done as well.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and six record. I don't think they, I, there's a chance that they

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, they'll they,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

card

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

they'll still make it, they'll still make it. they're in the a they're in the a FC side of the things, which is probably the strongest side of of the N-F-C-A-F-C-A-F C's probably got the stronger teams in it. Doesn't mean they're always gonna win. Like Philadelphia is still thereabouts, but you know, but you got the Detroit Lions, they can have a, have a cracker, I think. I think I really like the LA Rams. I think the Rams are gonna go through win it. I'd have to touch up on what side, which is on, because there is 32 teams and I've only been follow it for a little bit. So

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

weeks ago, you were all about the Ravens. And the Ravens gonna win it, and they're the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

the Ravens still can win it.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

no, they can't,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

The Ravens can still win it.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

they gotta

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

They're still thereabouts. They're not, they're not out of it yet. And the Ravens are a very, very good team that when they click, they're almost unbeatable.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

The Knights are gonna win another premiership too. I just

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Not,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's gonna be before 2050 or not.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

not, not, not next year.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

w or the Knights Man's?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

WW.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

think the W's wrapped up by Brisbane and the Roosters for the next couple of years.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Oh

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

yeah. Pretty much.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

And the worst thing is you've got those two teams in the NRLW and they keep putting more teams in and it's not working. It's not thin in an amount enough, dunno what to do. Don't the Warriors come back in next year or they coming in this year?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

They were in this year.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, okay.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

They just missed out on

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Which ones are going in next year?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think the drama or the w yeah, you've got that. That sort of like a cat. I guess. It is a cat, but think we're finding. A lot of younger women coming through that, are getting picked up. I think there's a, there is such, so little teams and there's such a area to pick from'cause you're picking from all over Australia

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hmm.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and women's football is becoming more popular throughout all the local leagues that through all competitions. Now they've got a league tag and a, and a tackle team. So there's more and more women getting involved and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think the NRLI know they want to wait until they can generate their own money and revenue and everything, but I think at one point or another, the NRL and the government probably need to bite the bullet and go do it this way. Match the same as the men.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

They need,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

turned around and thrown money to pop a new Guinea to bring their team in. But yeah, we've got. On our own back door, and they're not putting any money to support that.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I reckon that they need to start doing more doubleheaders with the teams with what w the W sides are. Now. They should start doing more doubleheaders, I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think, I think they should do a national reserve grade with the NRL and the women's and have a whole day of it. When you go to the footy, You can, you can work it around. They can still have their two o'clock NRL games. You just play the NRLW later And then have, you could have two channels on Fox Sports. One for the women's just do it that way they can generate their own money with advertisements and sponsors'cause then it can be its own separate product. But on the day you play a women's reserve grade, you play a women's first grade, you play a men's fir reserve grade and first grade as well. And then extend the benches to six and two players from the reserve grade can sit on the bench as concussion replacements. Once a player's concuss or hurt, hurt intentionally, what's is that the rule That if they're hurt intentionally and it injures them or takes outta the game?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Foul play.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Foul play, they can come in then. So you've got, you've still got your 18th man, but you extend that to a 19th man and if you are ruled out through concussion, that activates that reserve grade player that's already played that day.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that, But I think the only drama with playing the women's and the reserve grade is the Thursday and the Friday night games.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, yeah. And possibly, when p and g come in with the Perth bears, they'll, it'll go back to Monday as well. So you'll only have Tuesday, Wednesdays off?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I used to love Monday night footy,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't, I don't have anything against Monday night footy. remember that year that we had Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and Monday.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Mm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

they can, they can put, they can put another game on a Sunday, but I think they're gonna go to a Monday night game. either that or they're gonna have a Sunday night game every week. Where now they have four o'clock. That's the end of the round. I think they'll have a 7 37 o'clock Sunday game.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

they won't probably do that because normally everyone sits down and watches the news Sunday night and winds down to get ready for work on Monday.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

When was the last time you watched the news Hoover?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

watch the weather to see what's going on.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

most people do that shit on their phones. I don't watch the news. I don't even watch normal tv. The only time that I put normal TV on is for state of origin and the Grand Final. Otherwise, I watch Amazon Prime, Netflix, Disney, everything else.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

too much money.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't have too much money. I get bored.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

But I think those teams that play Thursday, Friday, possibly Monday year reserve grade and your women's team would still play Friday, Saturday and Sunday. And you would play those development squads. your those teams coming through, in the morning, followed by those reserve grade.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, the way, the way that it would work is that you have a one for one team. So every, every team has a women's team, every team has a reserve grade team, and then they all play each other, each club at the same time. So if you have the DOL dolphins play Perth and the Broncos play Canberra, those women's game, and that's on the Friday and the Saturday, you play those games on a Saturday or a Sunday?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I think one's gonna be hard,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it ruins your,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

the time zone.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

your 18th and 19th man, those

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

grade have gotta play before your Thursday and Friday, you're not gonna get that 18th, 19th man from your reserve grade squad. That's where it's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

difficult. So teams are gonna have to carry fresh 18 and 19.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. You,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

during the NRL, that's all well and good. They're fresh, they can go back. But if they're away

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

grade team's playing in Brisbane or in North Queensland. Jump straight on your plane, which a lot of them do now.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

home, get six hours, sleep, get up, try and be fresh enough to play to the best of your ability for your team that afternoon.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What if they go, what if they go back to playing games at the same time and just pick which game you wanna watch? you still have the replay that you can go back and watch if you wanna watch the other game.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

no. I like watching'em live.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Do you remember when they did that on Fox L, where you could pick which game you wanted to watch?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. it, I think it takes away too much of the broadcasting.'cause a lot more people will watch a game live than what they will to go back and watch a replay like we noticed the other week with the ashes on and like to, to get up with social media. Now you wake up seven, eight o'clock.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

thing you do nine times outta 10 check, ah, one, I'm not gonna bother watching it. It was 32 6. So it's a whitewash.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

And that's where, where NRL will look at it that way, that for them to keep generating more and more money, they're gonna want that live play and have people watching live football.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

But I think, I think there's gotta be, and I know some teams do it, the supporters packs and stuff like that, so you away games. Me being a, Hoover being a New Zealand supporter, it's been hard for him to just jump on a plane and go over to Mount Smart and watch him play.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You could if you wanted to.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

he could, but if they,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

a week

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

if, if the NRL or. The Warriors or North Queensland or Perth and that.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I sort of want to go for a weekend and watch a game in New Zealand. I'd love to do that. Obviously you'd want to do that more, but I said, I said to Zach a while ago, I'm like, should we, should we just buy tickets and just fly over to Perth for the weekend and fucking watch the first Perth Bears game in Perth? And he's like, no.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I know how that would go down with all of our wives.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you dunno, my wife that well, she.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

know exactly how it's gonna go down with you and your wife. It'll

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I can go,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

being stabbed.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I can go. Oh, yeah. That's another thing with the trivia too. You can't use your phones. Whoever will know if you use your phone hands on your head,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but I just, it is. So many different variables to how they'll, I just think they'll get, generate more cash flow. Especially with Perth and PNG coming in. You're gonna have here in Australia PNG. going to

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

if, what if, what if they the NRL goes, all right, channel seven, channel nine, and all that. They come up for broadcast rights. What if we go, we, we will give you the women's game, and they just play it on two different channels.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Well see the girls is on.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. No, I, I know that, but what if a, B, C goes, or I'll take it, or Channel seven goes, all right, we'll take that. And they just play all the women's games on their channel as a separate sort of thing. And then you have Channel nine has the men's Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

watches him, used. I still watch it on.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Because that's the way the broadcaster was brought up. That's the way that, that it's written up for the broadcast.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I personally don't think KO's gonna him go. I think KO's gonna be the ones that come in and try and get the whole broadcasting deals.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. Well, are they gonna, are they gonna offer to have a Women's Rugby league channel?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

They could.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Where it's only rugby, women's Rugby League and have their, so that it does look like their own competition. And you can only follow the women. there's a men's channel, women's channel.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. There's no reason why they can't. people are gonna

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you could still do the

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

download.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

reserve grade thing that way because they wouldn't all be playing at the same ground. But on the occasion that you have a Saturday or a Sunday where you can have all four games on the same day, you can do that. But on a Friday, on a Thursday night, they just play at a different location. Maybe the women play in Brisbane while the men play in. Right. In Canberra they still play the same teams. But you take reserve grade men, first grade and reserve grade men go to Canberra and play.'cause you can play. You could play. It's only that six o'clock Friday game that it's gonna be like, all right, we'll play at four o'clock in the afternoon.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

reserve grade could play it then,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's what I mean.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

what you gotta remember is too, most of those girls that are playing in the NRLW have full-time jobs.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I know

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's where they'd have to get serious with the caps and make'em

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's what I mean though.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

paid.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

a full season that they can sell to a network to generate more money that goes back to the players and can make all players full-time and then have a salary cabinet like they have now, where there's only like two players that are allowed to have a full salary. that's what I mean. If, if Canberra's playing Brisbane this week, the men play in Canberra and the women play in Brisbane, and then when you play'em the second time round or whatever you, you swap it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but then it'd be the same with the reserve graders. They'd need a proper wage.'cause a lot of them still work. So you are gotta be in Canberra on Friday to play football at, or warm up three o'clock Friday arvo down from Brisbane. You a whole day's pay. So you'd have to, the club would have to pay you enough to accommodate you losing money from your day job.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, I, I think that's why we don't have a national reserve grade and they use the New South Wales and Queensland Cup, but at the same time, the storm are putting a team in the New South Wales Cup next year. They've gotta travel up every second week at least. They've gotta do that. They can't just travel up on Saturday morning and play Saturday, go home.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

they can, they can get on a plane at five o'clock in the morning on

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

There's only 30 players in an NRL team that have a full-time contract. The rest of the development players and you know, all of that and.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So to go, you go to reserve grade, go from 30 players out to 40 because

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you'd have to, you'd have to mirror it with the women's game, which it would mean it'd be exactly the same anyway.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

That's the thing. Not, not every team has a team for the, uh, girls.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Not yet,'cause there's probably not enough depth,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

see

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

but it will be.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

The Warriors. The Warriors were in it to start off with, and then

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That was, that was through, that was through COVID.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

pull it out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That was'cause of COVID.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

they had to pull it out.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think that was because of COVID and they didn't, they tried to get back in and they didn't let'em back in. I think they tried to establish it in Australia. I'm pretty confident that when p and g come in, they'll come in with the women's team straight away.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I, I think that's what'll happen.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think there's a lot of other NRL teams that are pushing for women's team already that if p

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

a lot of them didn't, didn't apply for a women's team too. They weren't quite ready and they'll trying to establish the grassroots of it development and stuff before they did apply for it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but now they're try, they've gotta apply every year and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you can't just, you can't just throw 17 teams straight away.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you can't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's better now how that, it has got more teams now compared to when it had six.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you can't throw p and g women in there ahead of these other teams that have been waiting in the wind for the last five years.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

a hundred percent agree with you. understand where you're coming from, but I think that's what's gonna happen is that gonna have a women's team up and ready to go while they're gonna develop, they're gonna set up the development phase for the men's and the women's at the same time, and they'll bring'em in at the same time.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I haven't got a coach.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

at too is you bring the women's side in, right? You look at the women's p and g side versus Australia.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

how many girls that are playing in the women's league now are gonna go to PG

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you got the same, that's the same argument with the men's.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

That's the thing. But it's already major teams that are winning everything in the girls side. Now, you can't throw another team in there that's gonna get their ass in to'em by 90 points every gut, every week.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. I still don't agree with p and g being in the, coming into the competition because I don't, I don't see it being successful for that very reason of, the roosters can go, you can come and you can come here, play for us for a lot less money than what p and g is gonna have to offer to keep'em in that country. You've come into Australia to live in a better country under better conditions with your family and stuff, you're gonna take that over. there's loyalty only goes so far when you can provide more for your family, you know?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

providing more?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

the NRL The Australian government gonna develop p and g into a first world country? They've already said that they're doing a, a like resort for'em to go and live in. So p and g people will be going to a resort in p and g to live, to play footy.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, I, I don't think the, the locals that they pick to play in that squad would live in the resort, but I also don't think that, a lot of the people that do decide to go there, it may been Kaa the other day.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

reading that he's announced that open to this idea of going over there

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. There'll be, there'll be players that want to go over there and wanna do something, but they'd be, there'll be players there that, alright, that won't have an Australian citizenship, that can't come back. That's different. If you're from p and g, you've been living in Australia, playing for the Melbourne storm, you've got an Australian citizenship. You can go over there, help'em out for a couple of years and do the right thing by your country because you've got something to fall back on.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. But I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Where if you're a young player, if you're a young player coming through, killing it, and you are offered to come over to Australia, stay here so long, get an Australian citizenship. I just don't see how it's gonna work.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think there'll be exemptions put in place where those, the, the big sort of six teams can't just rape and pillage through there and take the, the pick of the crop.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's what I mean. That's what I think is gonna happen.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but then

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

think they're gonna take the best, they're gonna take the best of the p and g chiefs players, bring'em to Australia for a lot less money than what p and g's gonna be able to offer'em. the money that they're gonna be able to offer'em is gonna be a lot, a lot of money. It's gonna help'em

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

good. That might be opportunity to come to Australia. The cost of living from to be in Australia is not gonna be worth it for the less money earning a proper wage being at home in their country where it doesn't cost as much to live.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's not gonna balance. Yeah, you get to come to Australia, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

At the, at the same time.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

out. It's no different. You'd be better off coming over on a train and troll deal,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

train

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

the same time, I've never set foot, I've never set foot in p and g, I dunno what the living conditions are actually like. it might be a lot better than what I think, I might be just talking fucking smack.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't know.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I just know that a lot of, a lot of people have the same sort of opinion the fact that they've gotta build a compound from the live in, they can't just go over there, buy a house, you know, on the main street and Port Mosby is a bit concerning.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's a lot to do with the culture too. even when you go to fucking Qatar you just can't go over there and buy a house. You've gotta your citizenship everything before you're allowed to buy

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm pretty sure you've gotta do that. you don't have to do that. You do. You can just buy whatever.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

when, once you, yeah, but I think that'll be a lot to do with that. The heritage and everything.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah. P and GI think.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, while we're on rugby league, there's a couple of sign-ins that I took notice to. So the Perth Bears have signed Toby Sexton for 27, 28, so I'm guessing they've got their half back. They're still chasing Wishard. I know that ARDS going over to have talks with him. They've signed text in, where's Ard play? Is it gonna be Hooker? Or Six?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Six.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Six?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

He reckons that.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. Wish I goes to six or is a big enough body that he can play. 13. I don't think he goes over there and plays hooker. think there's enough hookers coming through the ranks that Perth will land an out, an out hooker, whether it be a young hooker or one that's sort of coming towards the end of his But I think they'll, land a hooker

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

think, yeah, if, if they do land with, I think he plays six or 13, gets his hands on the ball. Plays that ball runner. Yeah. of signings, I'm very fucking disappointed. Cowboys have signed Mat Lodge.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That was the other one I noticed. I was about to ask you what your thoughts when we were on that.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

a couple of years we've needed to bolster our forward pack'cause we're getting along in the tooth and the young ones coming through, they

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't think he goes there. I don't think he's going there to replace MacClean. I think he's adep signing.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, a

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's just that

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

He,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

it is.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

not going there to, to be a starter. He'll come off the bench. I think Griffin NE's gonna be a starter or Cohen.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't, I don't even think he'll be on the bench. I think he'll be in Queensland Cup

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

He'll come in for injuries. He'll be just injury coverage All right, so the other rugby league, rugby, rugby three Sixty's been delayed until 2028.'cause obviously they can't get a competition off and running in 12 months. What does that mean for Lomax and Pap, you reckon? Reckon they just come back to league. Lomax can't come back to league unless he goes back to Parramatta. And I don't think Parramatta are gonna take him back.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

might be going to the Dragons or,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I've seen dragons and I've seen tigers. I think

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

back

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

also seen eels. I think I've seen eels because,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I think it

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

him and Jason Ryles used to work together at the storm. Hey,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

yeah, I think it was either the Dragons or Parramatta. He was looking, they said he could link up with.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I did, I did see something about the Tigers, but,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't think he goes back to the, the Tiger system,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

well, you never know. I'm pretty sure when he was at the Tigers was when Tedesco was still there and they took Esco.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't know. I just,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Who, who do you think who's a better, who, who had the better career? Pap Hasen or Tedesco?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

what Tedesco has,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but in saying that if Papa Hausen didn't fucking shatter his leg years ago,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. No, you're right.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

papa's totally different player

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

today.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

But there are two players that show that the junior system at West Tigers can bring some good players through. They just can't hold onto'em. And the other thing is, like this week you've had the most Tigers thing ever. They've just sacked their board because they said that the jersey was too orange. Oh no. Because the board, the board signed off on a jersey that was too orange and looked too Balmain. They're the fucking West Tigers. Like

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Speaking

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

can you have it too orange?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

how fucking gay is the Brisbane logo?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh no.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it looks

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

looks,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

it. Look good on Jonesy.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

symbol.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It look good on Jonesy.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

it's a draft symbol.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It is. It is. The cold draft symbol. Actually.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

pickup.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I looked at it the other day and I hate Brisbane. That's just a passion of

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

All these logos, the reason they keep changing'em to the way that they are is'cause the NLS made a thing where they have to simplify their logos and minimize them for the future. they've got a certain time period that they need to change it. That's why they're doing what this is

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm more disappointed. The knights change there is all they did was turn the fucking thing around. and still it's been like it for ages and I still think it's the wrong way around. I'm I just liked it the other way. But they reckon it's looking forward, who's to say what's looking, it's left and right. It's not forward or back.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

maybe it's looking up'cause he just spent long on the bottom

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think the Panthers have changed theirs or they're changing theirs as well. But

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

there was talk of Penrith, but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

As the owner of the West Tigers to sack your board because your jersey is too orange is the most West Tigers thing you could fucking do.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That was so stupid.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm still stuck on Brisbane's logo and I cannot get around it.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Mm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I was thinking with this 360 thing where they've delayed it.'cause they obviously realized they can't get a competition up and running in time. They've got all this money to burn, to throw at players to establish an elite rugby, rugby union competition. Why don't they invest that money into an already established competition and just bring better players in, for example, major league rugby in America where there's a big population that if they get behind it and you promote it. Get people following it over there and bring all the best players over there and make that the elite competition rather than, we have to start our own competition and be all legit and stuff.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Tell the truth, I don't reckon it's even gonna go ahead.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, it'd be a pretty good sign that it's, it's not, and it's only what, a week after Lomax left.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

if he didn't, if they announced this last week, does he still walk out? I don't think so.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

coming back to the, that lo Max Paramatta thing, I know there was a, the clause about him having to come back or he couldn't sign for another team,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

He can't sign for another NRL team for four years,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

which is pretty much his career over. And the only other option is looking at super rugby. he'll get a big contract in the Super League. He wanted to travel the world. There's your opportunity. You got French rugby?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

paramaters open themselves up to some kind of law suit because if they do

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

because that's what, that's what the agreement was.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

matter. But if they then turn around and say, no, we are not gonna sign you. He should be able to go and sign with whoever the fuck he wants because they haven't lost any money. They have lost nothing. They got all his contract back go and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

on somebody else.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think they've lost

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

bit. They've, they've put faith in him for five years. They've signed a player for five years, so they've seen potential to build a team with him in it. And then he's gone, nah, I don't wanna be here anymore. That, that's a five year plan where they've, them gotta find a replacement,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's no different to any other player that walks out on their contract and signs with

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's not, it's not, and he can come back to the NRL, but there's, there's also been, there's been clauses where people can't sign. Like Reese Walsh wasn't allowed to sign with the dolphins, but he could go back to the Brisbane.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

try,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

done, they've done things like this before.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and said, we don't want you, we wanna sign ca, then all four Reese whilst go under the dolphins. And that's where if Parramatta turned around and say, we,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

ponga.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

no, nobody wants Pong except the knights. And I don't even think they want,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

And the rooster.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Bri, Brisbane didn't wanna, didn't wanna play Reese Wil Sheva. That's to the Warriors. And then the Warriors gave him a chance.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

seen that, he went straight to fullback and pushed one of the best fullbacks outta the wing. Brisbane's like, oh, we'll take you back now.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I really believe if you walk out on a contract like that, you should have to sit out 12 months and not play, you can't train, can't play at all. Just Gordon Tellis did it when he, when Gordon Tellis left the Dragons, he signed with Brisbane and then the Super League thing happened and then it went away and he'd come back and he just chose to sit out a year and, and not get paid or anything so he could go and play for Brisbane.'cause that's where he wanted to be and that's what it should be.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I just think Parramatta, if they get the opportunity to sign him, they do. And they sign him on less money because he walked out,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. But he won't, he won't wanna stay that, that's the thing. And then he'll be like, oh, I'm homesick and want to go

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

back to Cog.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

He, he'll get a release regardless, and Parramatta is gonna have to look at it and go, hang on,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, I, I believe in the same thing.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

any money, but whatever.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

If a player from Brisbane goes to Canberra and signs a contract in Canberra and they get down there and they're like, oh, I'm homesick. I want to go home. And that's how they, they get their release. You have to sit out 12 months.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Blake,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

can't just let'em know. Yeah, just go back. It'll be fine. There's gotta be, there's gotta be some sort of wait. You really want to go back'cause you are not gonna be able to play footy for 12 months if you do and give them an ultimatum. You either don't play for 12 months and you can go, or you stay and stick it out and we release you. But the clubs and players are as bad as each other at getting outta contracts. That's just whatever suits whichever one at the time.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's no different to any other job in the world.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, that's not, it is a little bit. Can you, would, have you ever been to a job? Have you ever been to a job and then gone onto Facebook and found out that your job is offering you to other companies? That's what happens in the NRL.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's, part, that's just that job.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Jamal Fogarty, he didn't even know that he was getting shopped off to other clubs. And that's why he's got the shits with, with the Gold Coast is because they go, they were, he found out on the radio driving home from training, the Gold Coast was shopping him around and then they didn't tell him anything about it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

if you sat down and read through your actual work contract, there'd be clauses in there would get you out of your contract or get them out of their contract. it, it is no different. There's, that's why

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I know that.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and each club, they've got these amount of lawyers

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think the NRL should be in the clauses where you can renegotiate after three years on a five year deal. If you sign a five year deal, you just sign a five year deal, you don't get another shot in three years

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

The NLS got a crack down on these players

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's what I think they should do. They should have, they should have players and clubs shouldn't be able to renegotiate halfway through a contract. If you sign a contract, you sign that contract. If you only want them for three years and then renegotiate, you sign'em for three years. If you want'em for the full five years, you sign'em for the full five years. Plain and simple. ready for some redemption trivia, i've got the rules of redemption trivia, You get three questions the winner from this week comes up with questions next week.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I was

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What do you want me just to do it each week and then I don't lose, Hey.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

that's fucking bullshit. If you do it each week, you know the questions,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't lose anything. Right now it's only between you two to lose it so if you win. If you win Hoover and you lose a shot off your hit thing, so your one shot that you've got, it goes to Zach. So Zach goes to four, but if Zach wins, he goes to two and you go to two and then we're all on two. that's what the idea behind it is. It's redemption trivia. So on our sportsbet account,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

put your hands up

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

actually no. You know what I'm gonna do here, I'll just let you win Jackson. That way you get more shots at John.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I've got nothing to do with it'cause I'm not doing it this week. That's why the winner does the questions next week, and then if I get it right next week, I'll lose the shot or I get it added to me. That's why we swap the questions. So you just go through and do the questions. We've got our sports bet account where we put a big bet on. We have two bets each. We put it into a multi,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

And the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

and each bet that you get wrong, you get a practice golf ball hit at you with a driver the next time that we play golf. But this is redemption trivia. if you win, if you get two questions right out of the three, you lose a shot at you, and the other person gains it. You use your name as a buzzer, and if you answer the question, if you say your name and you answer the question wrong, the other person gets a free hit at what the answer might be. They can listen to more of the question. you can listen to the question all the way through, and then make your question. The way that I've set it up is that I'll do the question and then it'll slowly get easier as to what it is. If you want to forfeit and say, I don't know, or forfeit it, the other person automatically wins. All right?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

What about if they, what about if they dunno it either,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's the first person to say, I forfeit

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Dunno the answer.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

the first person that says I give up. I've got a queen. I'm gonna flip heads or tails, Hoover heads or tails.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

What is Hoover getting to pick?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

first one to say heads or tails.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

tails never fails.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

All right, so we picked tails. So Hoover picked it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I wanted tails.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Hey, I wanna see the coin before you flip it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's here.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, that

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It was tails. It was tails. You won. So do you want to pick the first que the first category or do you want Zach to do it?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

whatever.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Not whatever you just won.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

gonna, you, that's exactly, that's a, that's a four foot. No. What, which one do you wanna pick? And then the lose are the loser picks the next one. So do you want to, do you want to pick a category or do you wanna pass it to Zach?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. I'd like to pick a category. Gory

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I swear we're gonna iron this out.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Alright, I've got,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

want the winner to kick off.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

we've got name this sport, name this team, or name this player,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I just got a phone, a friend.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

What was the second one? What was the second one?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You've got name this sport, name this team name this player with the, you've gotta get the full name, correct

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

fucking hell

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

it.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

one. Name this sport, wasn't it?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

name, this sport,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yep.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

full name. Correct.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yep.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Name. This sport. This sport consists of two teams of 11 players, 10 field players, and one keeper. The objective of the game is to put a ball into a net.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

is this the round ball? Is this soccer?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, Hoover do. Hoover. You, you get to answer. There is unlimited substitutions. You cannot use your feet. You must use a stick to move the ball. This game is played on grass or synthetic turf. It can also be played indoors.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You've, you've gotta get it exactly right.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

can you repeat the question?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Name this sport. The sport consists of two teams of 11 players, 10 field players, and one keeper. The objective of the game is to put a ball in a net. There is unlimited substitutions. You cannot use your feet. You must use a stick to move the ball. This game is played on grass or synthetic turf. It can also be played indoors. All right, because I'm gonna give it to you'cause you said hockey.'cause you're probably not gonna get the fact that it's field hockey.'cause you can say hockey, it could be ice hockey. That's why I said it's gotta be exact. All right. But I'll give that one to you.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, that's not the full answer.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. It is. It's right. Is that what you meant though? You meant field hockey, didn't you?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

of course, he's gonna say yes. Now

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm giving it to Hoover.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Well, it's not ice hockey.'cause ice hockey's only got five,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Either way. either way. Zach. Is it soccer? I did that on purpose and he only had to listen for 10 seconds more. He knew it was with a stick and you couldn't use your feet.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Got 13, don't they?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. 11.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hoover also said he, is it the Irish one? So that's the wrong answer.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'd have no idea what he was talking about.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

talking about Gaelic football,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

that's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

that doesn't have a stick. It doesn't.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. It's like a FL with a soccer ball and soccer goals. All right, Zach, name this team, or name this player.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Can you repeat the question?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

And these two, you do have to get exactly right.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

We had to get the last one exactly right. But Hoover didn't have to,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

he got, only because he said island and he was on the right track. So

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

The fuck's island got to do with field hockey.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

everything,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Nothing.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

do you wanna name this player or name this team? player or team. Player, I was born 20th of October, 1969 in June East New South Wales. I've played 23 games for New South Wales Blues in 21 games for Australia. I also played for New South Wales and Australia Super League teams. I played my career at Center and five eight. I played 246 games between 1987 and 2000, and I made my rep debut at the age of 18. It is an NRL player. I'll give you that.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just trying to think of his name.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well, I did say New South Wales Blues, I have coached New South Wales in two stints. In the NRL era. I have won a series. I have scored 87 tries, kicked 44 conversions and nine fail goals. I was a one club player with the Canberra Raiders.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Ricky Stewart.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Is it Laurie Daley?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Laurie Daley. You know what I would've got that at? I was born in uni. All right, so we've only got name this team.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

person ever to be born there.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

All right, Hoover, make sure you say your name you gotta say your name, not someone else's.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Name this team. It is an NRL team.'cause we're trying to make it easy so that you understand that it's a, this is a good thing. We joined the competition in 1967, but we were founded in 1963. We currently play in the NRL. We have two minor premier ships being runners up twice and winning one grand final. We have three wooden spoons. We currently have a women's team and a fa famous father son combo that played for our club. We have played 27 finals games. Our colors are black, white and blue.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Colonel Shocks.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hoover,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

What?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

he didn't get it right.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

He didn't get it right, black, white, and blue. I'm trying to think of the taste now.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

There'd be people screaming at their radios. Surely

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

going, keep going with the,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

that's all of it.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Oh, that's all of it. Black, white, and blue. That's their current colors.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, that's always been their colors. Our colors are black, white and blue. We joined the competition in 1967.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. That doesn't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

We were founded in 1963. We currently play in the NRL. We have two minor premierships and been runners up twice and winning one grand final. We have three wooden spoons. we currently have a women's team, a famous father son combo played for our club. Our colors are black, white, and blue. We have played 27 finals games.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I am just trying to think of a team that's black, white, and blue. Other than the sharks,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Maybe it is the Sharks. Maybe he just didn't get the name exactly right.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

the C sharks.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

That's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

He said Granola sharks.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach? No granola sharks was your answer,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

oh. Go for it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You can't be looking for Sutherland Sharks.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. You left out the Sutherland

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Oh, fuck it. Hell,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

just like if it was Manly, it'd have to be man, Waringa. I thought that was pretty good, to be honest.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

no.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

How was it? Hoover gets one of your shots, we're all on two now.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

guess what? You are gonna get a hell of a lot more at me.'cause I don't know shit about these.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach sort come up with'em next week.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Hoover, I'm gonna go with Tiger Woods.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

It doesn't have to be NRLI was trying to make it NRL so it was easier. Ho Plus you got a freebie because you didn't say field hockey,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

That didn't matter. I still got shot.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you would've whinged if you won All

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

if you get both your bets right, do you get one taken off then?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Zach,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

What do you mean?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

if you get both your, both your bets, right? if you get your two right, do you lose a shot?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

What do I lose a shot for? I just won.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. you'd lose. You'd lose. You'd only have one.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Nah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

now I know what you mean. No,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. Worth a try.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

why you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

right.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

yours. Right? You pick the fucking ravens,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I suppose you're going with the Ravens this week.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Do we, do we keep it as it is and I just do it? Or do you just want to swap around doing it and do it that way?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

how

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

think

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

gonna get shots against you?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I didn't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Because I don't,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's a concept. We will look at in the future.'cause at the moment I'm fucking that at work. I haven't got time to be fucking writing out trivia questions.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

it literally took me 10 minutes when I got home from work.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

And it doesn't matter. I don't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I was at dinner,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I drive

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

all I did, all I did was think of an answer. I just thought Daley and I just went out, went in and wrote out his Wikipedia

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

doesn't

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

and just tried to. Make it obscure. That's why I had, I start off with the year the Sharks came in. Do you think I know what the year the sharks were introduced into the competition? No,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

you made it sound unbelievable.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I did, didn't I? I did pretty well, eh,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

didn't.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Ricky Stewart. Have you ever seen Ricky Stewart play in the Centers

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

when,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

all the time mate.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

cause all the Warriors don't win anything. They dunno what the positions are.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

They don't need another positions.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

And until you said Canberra, I was waiting for fucking whoever to say Brad Fit.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I was gonna leave, I was gonna leave Canberra out of it completely. And the same with the red, white, and blue.'cause they're the only reason that you both knew what I was talking about.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

The red, white, and blue.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, sorry. The blue, white and black.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

You said black, white and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Who, who was the father sung combo that played for granola?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

et.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. Zach don't remem Dunno what I'm talking about. Steve Rogers. Matt Rogers both played for Cronulla.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

It's probably something we can work on,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh, I'm happy to ride em out all the time and used two. Just do'em. We'll just

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm, still taking your shot. Taking my shot and giving it to you for this week.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Alright, we're all on two. I've lost my pen.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

three. You're on three.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I've got three. I'll do the trivia and I've got three. You both have two. I'll come up with the trivia and use two, come up with a wave for me to earn me points off.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

The PS portal, they're, now, you can play it as a normal PlayStation.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Doesn't have to be connected anymore.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's, you've still gotta be connected to a PS five to initiate it all. But you'd no longer have to have your PS five turned on. I can take it. for work with me play it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So that was in the update the other day. I've gotta update it to double check it all and I just haven't had time.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

The only thing I wanted to say on gaming this week was, project Motor Sport, not getting around it at all. I played five hours of it and I just can't get into it. what it is. I think it's just the depth of the career mode. Maybe it'll make a difference once I add my steering wheel after Christmas when I can finally use it. But at the moment, very disappointed in that game. And that's why I was saying to you,'cause I paid full price for that game and that's why I was gonna ask you is how many hours in a game do you think you get value out of your money a full price hundred dollar game? I know there's games that are cheaper, but

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

this is my big thing with the digital versions. eBay games, you used to be able to take your games back and

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

trade in there

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but you could return'em and say, it wasn't what I

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

you can return on the PlayStation store.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you've

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't wanna give it back. I wanna see what improvements.'cause there is aspects to it that I really do like. There's, it's just, it's just the career mode.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Like I can still play it, it might be really good online. It's just the career mode doesn't have the depth that I would like into it.'cause there's no, all you're working towards is just a single weekend where you pick where you want to go to. It costs you money. Yeah, you've gotta pay for damage and stuff. But the way the AI's set up at the moment, it's very hard to I think because I've gotta turn the level up a little bit'cause I've got it set on 75 or something. But I keep getting ahead by like 20 seconds in half a race, and that's too far. But I fucked up and missed a corner and hit a wall and it bent it outta shape and I couldn't drive it properly. So I had to make a pit stop. Which is a really good thing. I like that part of it, that you have to go and hit the, you have to go into the pits, but when you actually go into the pits, I'm used to, you know, grand ismo, it just automatically does. It goes, changes everything off you go. This one, you've gotta line it up and stop in the right spot like you would with racing. And that's a good thing. That's not a bad thing, but I, it didn't register that I was stopped in the right spot and I ended up 45 seconds behind everyone and I just couldn't catch'em again that. That is a good aspect of it. It's just that you go around, you earn money to unlock cars, so you can enter other races, but outside of that, there's not really any incentive to keep playing it unless you wanna play in those classes. But. At the same time, when you start your career, you can go work from, you can work from a rookie and have less money and you can only buy two cars or you can go a mid-range where you can afford half of the cars or you can go, I've got all the money I can buy ev any car that I want to. So you can start in any category that you want to. I put the level all the way up just to do a race to see what the difference was. And the driving there was no difference. It's just the AI's a little bit quicker. I think they were two seconds quicker than me at a hundred percent. And there's no restart. You can't restart the game or, or the race but at the same time, you can't have the option there of, alright, I only wanna play at 85%, but I don't wanna restart any races so that if I do fuck up, I pay the consequences of it.'cause I can go in there and restart.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Well,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Right.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

that just comes down to your, to your own self.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I understand that, but I just, the depth in, it's just not what I want it to be. I just feel there should be, see, one of my favorite games would be B eight Supercars that had a story mode to it, and you earned contracts and you did time trials to try and earn a contract with a team and, all that. That's, that's one of my favorite racing games because of that career mode. That's all I remember of that career mode. I can't remember what the driving was like in it, and obviously I like grand TRS mode because I've always played grand TRS mode and, I just really like it and I'm really looking forward to getting my steering wheel and trying it with the VR to see how realistic it does look, feel, that, that's all I wanted to say about that, that it's just not, it's not interesting to me. I'll sit there, drive around while I'm watching the races I went and ended up playing Battlefield for two days anyway, because that interested me way more. Maybe that's what it is. Maybe it's because I've got another game there that's peak, that's got me, caught me interest compared to the other one. All right. Predictions this week.

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squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Both of mine are NFL.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Oh

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Two

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

no. Are you sticking with the Cowboys?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

one is the Dallas Cowboys and then the other one is the Jacksonville Jaguars. I had to add them in. thought I'd spice it up a bit. Yeah. Thereby too,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

what are your predictions there?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So this week also on the NFL for, one of mine. I'm on the Buccaneers to win this week. yeah, I was looking to stay strong with the Patriots, but they don't play this Friday like everyone else. but yeah, I think Buccaneer is too strong for new New Orleans Saints this week. And the other one is i'm gonna get on Chelsea to beat leads. Yeah, Chelsea win over leads and the buccaneers to beat the Saints and my two this week.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I got Newcastle United to beat Tottenham in the a PL the Los Angeles reams to beat the Arizona Cardinals.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

How many strikes are you won? Three.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah, apparently.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I put it on five. Just go straight to five, mate. Do do yourself a favor. We won't even add your two.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

We'll just play them.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah, go to five, but just pick up two other teams, two

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

the Newcastle, Tottenham game Could quite, it's one of them. Newcastle or one of those teams that they can, it can go either way. If they turn up and play, they can really put on a clinic. And Tottenham are much the same. just depends on which team gets off the bus. As for the, whoever else you said, Cardinals, Cardinals.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

LA Rams over the Cardinal.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

actually was looking at the Rams myself earlier, but I don't know too much about where either team are really sitting. we'll see how it goes.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

In me defense with the Ravens,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

this

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

like I didn't know that Burrows was gonna come back this week, so I thought he was out for another week. I.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

well, you can put your$5 one on now, Hoover.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

I can.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

And can put his, you just wait Johnson.'cause otherwise they'll fucking,

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

There's$17 in there now. There's two bets on.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Five, one.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

So you've got, fuck, an El Hoover? What? You back?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Did

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

thunder Woman. Aston Villa over Brighton Not too, IE the team could turn up and win that. Villa Villa's, one of them teams I can get around. Villa The Cowboys, Detroit Lions, I don't know. Yeah, they traveled. The last five, three losses, two wins. Yeah. What are you getting on Hurt Johnson?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'll put mine in.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Why isn't it coming out?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Slow.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

there it is. You reckon Australia's gonna beat England before we record next?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

If it goes to all five days, either be getting played, I'll be watching it as we're recording it.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No we won't because it's dark when we record.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Guess what to pink test. It's a day night test at the

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I didn't know that.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

starts Thursday. That's why it says Thursday three o'clock. Johnson.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

What?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You've just fucked me up. You, you've put the in your bet now they're gonna lose.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Fuck. I nearly put the cols that beat the jaguar, but dickhead picked the jaguar. You know, the, the cols won the second most games out of anyone in the NFL.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Nah,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you keep saying that the cowboys are gonna lose and you

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

heaps to cut out this week. Thanks for that. It's making me job harder

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

another segment

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm not the one that couldn't figure it out.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

You are the one that couldn't figure out your bets and sat there for the last 15 minutes looking for beds.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yeah. But I get to delete all that. I can delete. It'd be right.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

We've actually, we let you go through all the questions, not for our benefit, but for the listeners benefit.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

that's

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, because you fucked up to start with and you tried to jump in and say it was soccer.'cause I set it up like that. So you'd think it was soccer

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Even if I waited,

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

realize that, realize if you listen to the whole question, you got a better chance at it.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it doesn't matter, even if you said the next sentence about the stick, I would've got it wrong.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You reckon?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yep.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Why?

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Because I would've went with lacrosse

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

Why would I make it lacrosse? Does whoever even know what lacrosse is?

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

Yeah. Lacrosse. Fucking

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

stiffler.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

with a stick. Yeah, that's right. Run around with a stick into the.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I had a look the other day. It's$44 for lacrosse on PlayStation,

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I have looked at that game before, but no.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think. I think, hand a European handball was fucking a dollar 30.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I think. Seven days to die. The console version, I think it's available and peaceful.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

For free.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

I don't know if it's free or not.'cause I, when I go

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

You can get, you can get seven days to die. PS four, we, we've got the PS five one, you can do the PS four one. It's just the graphics aren't as good and it's not as smooth.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

but Hoover might be able to look at it. He might be able to get around it this weekend, up with his gamer tag and settle all that. You can

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I changed mine this week.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

and you didn't, changed

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I did. No, I didn't change it back.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I've been heaps of things, but I haven't been what I'm in now.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Yes. You have.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I haven't.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you have.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. I use that for, me tipping and stuff. I'm just raving night. 2, 3, 2.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You used to be Raven Knight on PlayStation before.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I haven't been raped.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

you have.'cause you're

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, I haven't. No I haven't.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

You have?

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I swear I haven't.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Mm-hmm.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

No, because I've only just come up with it

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

No. he really didn't.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

anyway. If he's got anything else this week or what he is getting up to do this week, other than Zach will be watching the Ashes, we're playing some games'cause we're gonna try and record some YouTube episodes that I've set up the channel. I'm just waiting for YouTube to get back to me.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

it's, I mean, Amanda's Christmas party this weekend too.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

I'm doing Christmas shopping on Monday.

zach-host393_1_12-02-2025_204740

Monday.

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

gotta, I've gotta go to mom's Saturday.

squadcaster-837g_1_12-02-2025_204733

See you later

the-incoherent-podcast_1_12-02-2025_204740

all right. I guess that's buy from us

Thank you for joining Zach Hoover and I on the Inca Here podcast. If you'd like to follow us on Spotify or wherever you get your podcast from, also head over to our Facebook page and follow us there. We're also on Instagram, the Inca Here podcast. Thank you. Bye.